Any word on when we will get an Auction House?

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Originally Posted by trinta

"FAR less frequent" = "still happening"?

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Far less frequently as in my retainers have been up for 36 hours in Ul'dah now on Mysidia as opposed crashing every 3 hours. Not perfect but still an improvement.

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Originally Posted by ShinChuck

I'm dying for an explanation here. You just described an Auction House, not "Market Wards." Market Wards, in their original concept, are dead, and what we have is a rudimentary Auction House, just with walking. It sounds to me like you're *agreeing* that you like that we have an AH-style system now, and are quite happy to have moved beyond Market Wards in their original concept.

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Isn't it obvious? The marketplace already functions almost exactly like an AH, so the people asking for 'AH' are requesting SE to do a lot more work for little gain. The AH in this game is called the Marketplace, and some people have yet to realize that. Wake up, people. What we need is a Marketplace that functions like an AH, not 'an AH'.

I look forward to the number of extra features the wards provide over an AH. Granted an ah might be easier now,who knows what the have in store for the future. I would like to see prise history though when itens are NOT up on ah so you still have something to go by.

Oh and the crashes. Then Im content.: )

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Isn't it obvious? The marketplace already functions almost exactly like an AH, so the people asking for 'AH' are requesting SE to do a lot more work for little gain. The AH in this game is called the Marketplace, and some people have yet to realize that. Wake up, people. What we need is a Marketplace that functions like an AH, not 'an AH'.

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A marketplace that functions like an AH is an AH. Give me the ability to buy from the search screen. This cannot possibly be the amazing programming feat that some of you would have us believe.


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Hey I have a question for the ward lovers:

How do you guys determine a price to sell an item that no one else has up?
I mean other than go on YG or something to look at a PRICE HISTORY?
How do you know you are not getting ripped off by someone who is the only person selling the item?
I mean other than go on YG or something to look at a PRICE HISTORY?

Please just save us all the trouble and give us an AH...

PS: If not, can we at least be able to see what was just sold in our retainers? Am I to remember evrything I put up and at what price I had it up? Goddam wards is so backwards....

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Isn't it obvious? The marketplace already functions almost exactly like an AH, so the people asking for 'AH' are requesting SE to do a lot more work for little gain. The AH in this game is called the Marketplace, and some people have yet to realize that. Wake up, people. What we need is a Marketplace that functions like an AH, not 'an AH'.

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My point exactly. People keep saying, "But the Wards are BETTER than an AH!" when the Wards are, in their current form, fundamental Auction Houses, just bloated and unintuitive.

People keep saying "I look forward to the extra functions of wards!" or "Wards could be superior to AHs!" without elaborating. Retainers? They can be kept as mules - they're nothing more than banks or mog houses, and it could be set up easily so we could access them outside of Wards areas. What other "benefits" could we see?

Market Wards were designed to be bazaar-style shopping, with a luck-based rummage sale sort of mentality. Those wards died the second the search feature was added. People keep talking "Wards" and "AHs" but they're speaking of the *exact same thing* at this point. I repeat: Market Wards as a concept as dead. The current "Market Wards" are basic, featureless Auction Houses, and it's silly to keep talking about them as if they're some new original invention and not the same old (but tried and true AH) economic system every other MMO has.

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Originally Posted by trinta

A marketplace that functions like an AH is an AH. Give me the ability to buy from the search screen. This cannot possibly be the amazing programming feat that some of you would have us believe.

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Yes, that's what's needed. Not this magical "Auction House" like described in the thread title.

Also, a marketplace that functions like an AH is a marketplace that functions like an AH. Some people will still not be satisfied before it is called "the AH" though, no matter how similar it is in concept.

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People keep saying "I look forward to the extra functions of wards!" or "Wards could be superior to AHs!" without elaborating.

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"Wards" are the AH. When people say they look forward to extra functions of wards, it's the same as saying they look forward to extra functions of an AH. Although as mentioned "the wards" are not just the AH, as they offer features that are not available in a traditional AH. Which is why calling the system "an AH" is not correct. An AH doesn't store items for you.

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Originally Posted by ShinChuck

My point exactly. People keep saying, "But the Wards are BETTER than an AH!" when the Wards are, in their current form, fundamental Auction Houses, just bloated and unintuitive.

People keep saying "I look forward to the extra functions of wards!" or "Wards could be superior to AHs!" without elaborating. Retainers? They can be kept as mules - they're nothing more than banks or mog houses, and it could be set up easily so we could access them outside of Wards areas. What other "benefits" could we see?

Market Wards were designed to be bazaar-style shopping, with a luck-based rummage sale sort of mentality. Those wards died the second the search feature was added. People keep talking "Wards" and "AHs" but they're speaking of the *exact same thing* at this point. I repeat: Market Wards as a concept as dead. The current "Market Wards" are basic, featureless Auction Houses, and it's silly to keep talking about them as if they're some new original invention and not the same old (but tried and true AH) economic system every other MMO has.

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Aaaaagreed. They are simply a primitive auction house that take up more time than necessary.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Yes, that's what's needed. Not this magical "Auction House" like described in the thread title.

Also, a marketplace that functions like an AH is a marketplace that functions like an AH. Some people will still not be satisfied before it is called "the AH" though, no matter how similar it is in concept.

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I'll be satisfied when I have something that functions like an AH. To this point, that's not what we have.

I am suprised to see several people saying that we dont need an auction house, well actually several people are saying we dont need an auction house right now, resources should be spent on content.