FFXI vs FFXIV Difficulty

In that last interview with Yoshi, they asked about the leveling speed he said it would be toned down in 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Noblewar

FFXI in a year most people only had one or two jobs capped with maybe one craft capped and sub craft to sixty.

FFXIV in a year people have all jobs and crafts capped.

Yoshi-P please make the game more difficult, if I'm level 20 and a monster is level 20 then we should be even match to each other and not a one sided fight which I'm guarantied to win. If a monster is my level I shouldn't, unless being real skilled, be able to take on 3-6.

Please make it difficult to where a party actually needs a tank and cant get away with 7 DD and a healer, each DD soloing a mob well enough that the healer only needs to throw one heal at the end of their battle.

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Getting all your jobs to cap in XIV is more like getting all your jobs to 37 in XI. We aren't at the final cap yet, and won't be for a long time.

The content we are getting now is supposed to have broad appeal so it can give the most people something to do each update. Currently development teams that should be working on content and expansions are working on the redesign. I am sure that once that is done you will see content updates that include content aimed at a broad range of player types. For now just enjoy what they are able to give us each update. Its not the end of the game it's just the beginning. Windurst wasn't built in a day you know.

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Originally Posted by Fouluryu

inb4 before people need to read your troll replies damaging people's IQ's. Leave their opinions and their expressions of the game as they should be.

But seriously, Noble's reply has a valid point. To make the game more challenging they could try raise level cap and increase bar exp amount needed to gain level.

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There's nothing challenging about mindless grinds.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

No it wasn't. It just took longer. That doesn't mean it was any more challenging.

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It doesn't mean that, but in this case it is true.
Leveling up in FFXI was quite literally more challenging than leveling up in FFXIV though the differences are minimal unless you talk about soloing.
Honestly, do you not remember the Goblin Smithies at that oh so very popular camp in Yuhtunga? How many times you'd get dead pullers. Links in Garliage, trains in Crawler's Nest and so on..?

Leveling in XI was brutal compared to XIV, not to say that it was hard because it wasn't but this is definitely some carebear stuff in comparison. And then if you want to talk about soloing... that was quite literally more difficult as well, try killing several even match-tough enemies in the 30s range in each game and tell me which it is harder to do it in (generally speaking).



So lets not even try to go there, normally I agree with you but in this instance I believe you are dead wrong.

I was just wondering if the OP character is his/her main character or just one used to post with.

This game had pretty much nothing to do but level for two years (two years....). That's the main reason everyone is capped, what else were they supposed to do?

P.S.: I wouldn't compare multi-group content to single group content.

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Originally Posted by Madruk

This game had pretty much nothing to do but level for two years (two years....). That's the main reason everyone is capped, what else were they supposed to do?

P.S.: I wouldn't compare multi-group content to single group content.

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I capped all my DoM/Dow jobs in less than two months, kthxbai. Now, though at a much slower rate, i'm capping DoH/DoL stuff... this MIGHT take a year, i'm leaning towards not that long with the added bonuses.

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

I wouldn't. I want the entire process to be entertaining, not just the end phase.

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^^^ This right here...IMO is the essence of an mmorpg...whats the point of the end game if you can't appreciate the journey to get there...IJS

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Originally Posted by Petdo

The OP might look at other people that have no life and play game for 24/7 and envy them.
The DoH/DoL class take too much time to lv up ( without helping hand of cause! )
If people can play only 2-3 hour per day, it will take around 40-50 days to finish 1 DoH class
So it take around 9-10 month to reach all DoH classes ( assumed you play everyday! )

DoL is a time-consuming class too because you have to walk around to find node and that count as time sink too.
I bet it might take some 4-5 month to reach lv 50 of all DoL classes

DoW/DoM is kind of easy if you have PLer.
But finding dedicate PLer that will PL you every class to 50 is very hard ==' Who gonna help you for many many hours and he go nothing in return? ( If you are REAL girl it would be another story :P )
So lvl DoW/DoM class might take another 3-4 month at least for soloing and PTing sometime.

So total time is around 1 year+ to reach all 50 classes,
And this game also released for more than 1 year, no wonder why ppl reach all 50.
But for new player, it will take another 1 year to lv up everything. And I think that's the correct pace.
After 2.0 launch, SE might lift lv cap and everything should be good-to-go again

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Not to mention going after the DoL/DoH achievments, go ahead and add on another 3-6 months of chasing those bad boys.

I think it is possible for them to make XIV more difficult without adding time synchs. What most people don't realise is I am sure SE has more difficult content planned, but they can't add things from the top down. Wait for 2.0 and then wait another 6 months after that for them to start actually releasing 2.0 content, and THEN we can have a conversation about how difficult the game is or isn't. So much of the games current state is still left ofver from the old development team, its not at all fair to try to judge it in its current state.

FWIW... my first 50 took over 2 months.... (That was the norm back at launch)