I think it's a bit late to go for a full on support role in the game. That could have worked in ARR, but two expansions in I think adding a fourth role would be a bit much without another huge overhaul to the game.
That said, it could have been a 'support dps' like Bard that's mainly a dps but brings a good deal of utility as well.
Blue Mage: Are you kidding me!?
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11-20-2018, 02:14 AMBright-Flower
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11-20-2018, 03:39 AMLyden
Im rly lucky with the "Limited Job" idea and the upcoming BLU and the content which is tied to it.
We have enough WoW Clones out there where the only endcontent is raids only ... FF14 is going new ways to provide a new area for endcontent, BLU is not for everyone and i think this is a good choice.
We have all in mind, a class or job work like in other mmorpg but this is final fantasy i want to play a bluemage without restriction in fights or imagine a Gambler ... who would take a Gambler with in a raid ( if u are lucky enough he kill the whole party with his skills XD)
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11-20-2018, 04:21 AMSWB
Seeing as astro is this games gambler, I would say everyone would take a gambler seeing as they're white mages with utility XD
But I get it. Blue carnival seems fun. But just like chocobo racing, and lords or vermilion, after an hour when you're done all the challenges there is nothing left to do at level 50, except ask your friends to stop enjoying the new expansion and play 4 year old content with you until your job can leave mor dhona -
11-20-2018, 04:26 AMBright-FlowerI'm glad FF XIV is trying new stuff, but let's be honest, blue mage is a side activity, not a new form of end game content.Quote:
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11-20-2018, 04:38 AMLydenTBH im the last one who can say "yes" or "no" im just a user of the FF14 client like we all ...Quote:
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11-20-2018, 05:47 AMMibgestaltWhat if Blue Mage was a melee DPS that dealt magic damage and had strong defensive support like Red Mage? It would open up all caster comps and still bring something new. Though I do understand what you're saying. I'd rather have waited til the time was right for whatever role they'd decided to put Blue Mage in than have a Blue Mage that can't actually play FFXIV.Quote:
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11-20-2018, 05:59 AMBright-FlowerMy point was assuming it would be a 'casting' dps. They could have tweaked into a magical melee support dps, sort of like an inverse bard, but that would also mean stepping away from the 'mage' part of the job a bit.Quote:
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11-20-2018, 06:09 AMDrStiles
7 years I waited for blue mage, basically since jobs were added to 1.0 version.
Words cannot describe my disgust and contempt at being resigned to some side attraction and never being able to actually play the game as the job that I love. I cannot forgive this.
To those saying "it isn't really that bad" or "just wait, SE will fix it", have you already forgotten 1.0? People said SE would "fix" that too before release, but we all know how that went. There was no excuse then, and there's no excuse now.
And to those who shrug and say they aren't interested in blue mage so this doesn't affect them, I ask you this: would you like it if your job was a limited job? Would you still want to play red mage, samurai, summoner, if they too became limited jobs? Where will your hype be if the suspected dancer and gunblade classes are also limited? I suspect the answer is most everyone would be universally unhappy.
Blue mage being entirely unfunctional in the vast majority of the game is criminal. Blue mage has been my favorite job in the series for years, and the one that I eagerly anticipated the most. And yet, as it stands now, I would rather SE never implemented it at all than have this abomination of a job that I will never be able to play with my friends. Ever. -
11-20-2018, 06:42 AMMibgestalt
Honestly, classically using melee weapons and medium armor (except Strago, the old lout), and the fact that the quintessential baby's first Blue Magic Goblin Punch is melee, plus spells like Aqua Breath... I've always imagined that Blue Mage was better suited for melee anyway.
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11-20-2018, 07:19 AMZeggy
I just don't understand why Blue mage is the only job that apparently people aren't willing to bend on. "It won't work." "You can't have that many abilities in a game." "With the role system, they just don't fit." "This is the only way they could put in blue mage." Yet every other Job it's fine to lower or change their abilities. It's fine to try and balance them, even if some are disappointed with certain ones (Such as Summoner). Fine, you're playing a white mage. Then you don't get your skills unless you gain enough AP to acquire them. Or would you rather wear armor that has your skills on it, or magicite that gives you abilities, and you can't unequip them until you've mastered them. Maybe a sphere grid you have to go through to learn them? Or FF11 route and find scrolls in shops or on monsters.
Hmmm? You're saying that those aren't applicable because they're single player games? And that FF11 is an old way of doing MMOs that just doesn't work in modern MMOs anymore? Huh... Funny that... Now then, back to making sure Blue mage HAS to collect every single ability in the game otherwise it's not blue!
Edit: While I'm at it. Blue mages
Quistis Trepe (VIII): 16 Blue spells
Blue Mage (V): 30 Blue Spells (One of which is Aero, white mage)
Strago (VI): 24 Blue Spells (One of which is Stone, Damnit White mage)
Kimahri (X): 12 Blue Spells. (One of which is Jump. Our bad on this one, Dragoons)
Quina (IX): 24 Blue Spells.
Enemy Skill Materia (VII): 24 Blue Spells.
Hmm.. Certainly seems like too large a number...