SE How Hard? (About the World Merge and Character Transfers (02/09/2012))

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Originally Posted by Geesus

What did you think was going to happen?! Really all those QQing about this are fu*cking RIDICULOUS! Talk to your friends, find out what # server you want. Then, if your SMART, you'l pick MORE THAN ONE and go from there. It's NOT That BLOODY HARD JFC!

SE gave you all what you wanted and your're CRYING about something so.... UGGGHHHHHHH!

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i'm sorry but i asked for a server mergre not a server F**k about they didnt give us what we wanted lmao... Hence y i'm and yapping they said they will give us a mergre and they didnt there giving us crap of a stick

Now I can switch servers to where my other gamer friends are on now. I really wish the servers had FF games.

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Originally Posted by Mychael

Awesome post. /floored. Someone that actually comes up with something beyond "because SE said it will be so." or "Stop whining about everything they do."

In fact, I don't think I'm going to try to argue anything. Kudos. :) Just have to agree to disagree. I still think that leaving communities intact (at least until new players start coming) was a good idea... Adding the non-functional servers to the functional servers, or combining non-functional servers into functional servers will always look better to me, but I have nothing but respect for your opinion. ^^

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Thanks,...I was just trying to get people out of the knee-jerk panic we were all in. And as long as there are players like you who care about the people and community they play with, it will all work out okay (even if SE could have done it better)

The point is that simply merging servers isn't as effective as forced merges w/ optional selection and data wipes.

SE wants to stimulate the social aspect of ffxiv. As it stands now the majority of servers have cliques which isolate themselves in the pretense of larger LSes for greater gain. Looking at this from a different perspective instead of just being angry, you realize that SE is attempting to refresh the social geography pre 2.0. That way the new incoming playerbase has less chance of struggling within an entire server preconditioned with isolated elitists.

It is a form of leveling the playing field so to speak.

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Originally Posted by ssppiikkeeyy

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Let's just do a [normal] server merge like we requested.

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I did not.

No thank you.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

come on se. if you wanted to only keep the top 10 servers this could have been easily handled. very simple method.

1. give the names of the top 10 servers.
2. if you are not in one of those top 10 servers the members of the other 8 servers are forced to choose to go to one of them.
3. if you are in one of the top 10 servers, but want to change on merge allow an optional change for those.
4. ???
5. profit

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Common sense right here. I love it! Just one problem. It seems like common sense is forbidden around these parts.

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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

The point is that simply merging servers isn't as effective as forced merges w/ optional selection and data wipes.

SE wants to stimulate the social aspect of ffxiv. As it stands now the majority of servers have cliques which isolate themselves in the pretense of larger LSes for greater gain. Looking at this from a different perspective instead of just being angry, you realize that SE is attempting to refresh the social geography pre 2.0. That way the new incoming playerbase has less chance of struggling within an entire server preconditioned with isolated elitists.

It is a form of leveling the playing field so to speak.

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Realistically, though, do you think it won't just go back to the way it is now, just with more people running around?

Yeah, this is a horrible way to do it I love the people in Besaid how hard would it have been to merge current servers 2,3,6 into new server 1 and current server 1,4,7 into server 2, based on server population of course. Now I have one linkshell that wants to setup on server 7 and another that is going else where... Nooooooooooo! That is horrible.

If SE can't do it right we should someone make a post on here that shows everyone a road map to goto. i.e. all of besaid join server 1 or something like that.

SE, "Take one step forward, then take two steps back."

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Originally Posted by Fated

God forbid they do something that makes sense, right?

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How's this for sense.

We are all going to have to rechoose servers for 2.0, that is a fact (see letter from the producer XXIV, 5th-4th to last paragraphs).

It would be disasterous (even more so because it is 2.0) if a system to rechoose servers is not implemented properly.

They now have the perfect opportunity test a system and iron out all the flaw before the big 2.0 crunch.

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Originally Posted by BlaiseLallaise

Realistically, though, do you think it won't just go back to the way it is now, just with more people running around?

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Realistically when you look at FFXI 2002-2006 everyone mingled with each other while keeping their own little cliques because not always could you really party or play with them for various reasons so you chatted a bit and found more people to play with.

In XIV, people don''t even try to mingle or socialize, a problem more apparent with a lack of people, more people = more socialization so no it won't happen unless SE goes the wrong route and continue making things soloable through and through which is what created the problem to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Well until we have the server names I can't see one server being that much more popular than any other, considering they're just numbered 1-10. Any number is just as good as another. I doubt we'll have servers filling up that quickly.

My only issue with this is not allowing people to select a server upon resubscribing. Scattering the currently inactive players to the wind doesn't seem like an optimal solution. However that's really my only complaint here.

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Agreed, it doesn't help players prepare for the merge if World 7 becomes "Besaid" two weeks later. In fact it probably complicates things further by releasing names at a later date, when shells have already made plans on said world but it no longer exists.

And scattering inactive friends waiting it out till 2.0 upsets me to no end as well. I'll be content if they allow them the option to transfer to a world of their choosing without being active (at least that way we can still see our friends when they come back), but we would really need all of the information on the merge NOW so we can get into contact with them off-game and get them prepared for the merge as well.

In the end I am a bit disappointed that SE didn't take the same route as in FFXI and just merge the lowest/higher populated servers, they could still rename servers to whatever they wanted and give players the option to voluntarily move to another server to even out the populace more, but in the end a majority of inactive players would still be together on the same server and could get back into contact with each other when they came back, unless the shell up and moved altogether.