So this is PvP now?

Someone explained that there are some people who are actually grinding, and or trying to get achievements. I agreed and added onto it only for the person who explained to say he was just kidding and he wants the whole alliance to just kill the other teams and forget about the ice. The first person then proceeded to say they didn't even know there are achievements for PvP. I told them about the mounts, glam, and stuff, but...well we lost again. All in all I enjoy PvP still, still love it "although I had to fall back in love with it lol", I just don't like the passer-bys that come to stick around...

Ah just so you know, you can edit your post to bypass the character limit :)

Checking out Red Mage in pvp, it's pretty fun I'm enjoying it. :)

Ah I did not know that "obviously" thank you! :) the whole time I was thinking, man this is a pain.

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Originally Posted by Keelyah

Lol i think glamour being end game just goes with out saying... we all like to look a specific way. But in regard to pvp ... I think most of us do not view this as balance... it feels like someone went into the doctors office for a common cold and came out with an arm amputated. Its a huge shift... the actual " problem", if there ever really was one, wasn't addressed lol. Maybe it was " we want those who play PvE to feel welcomed in the PvP arena..." but that distracts from what pvp has always been about which is an uncontrolled, competitive and unique realm... and this version of PvP is is soulless.
That was a great idea however it would be even more amazing to give us back the majority of our skills and give us the chance to configure our own consolidated button/ buttons OURSELVESfor both pvp and pve

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Oh, I agree so much with that. I even registered at the forum just to say that. :(
Couldn't have said that better.

PLD turned to garbage in PvP. We lost all sorts of good skills and got cookie cutter replacements. We can't even shield lob ffs. All other tanks have their insta-ranged weaponskills and PLD has to stop moving to cast Holy Spirit. What a joke.

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Originally Posted by KfLeX

Checking out Red Mage in pvp, it's pretty fun I'm enjoying it. :)

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It seems RDM and SAM were both well designed for the current system. But some of the other classes suffer.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

PLD turned to garbage in PvP. We lost all sorts of good skills and got cookie cutter replacements. We can't even shield lob ffs. All other tanks have their insta-ranged weaponskills and PLD has to stop moving to cast Holy Spirit. What a joke.

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What you failed to mention is that Holy Spirit with Quiescat up is an insane spammable 25y snipe with silence that can harass healers and casters alike :P

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Originally Posted by Tsuole

I'm an avid PVPer and I like the button consolidation, though I think the actual problem here is with the skill / trait selection. If we had perhaps more choices and more IMPORTANT choices of skills that could actually influence a 'build' of sorts that made our characters and the way we played fun and unique it would be better. Having less skills is better, but having game defining decisions to make is what makes PVP fun. We don't have that in our rotations - such is the nature of the game created. But we could have these choices in our selected traits and skills.

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As the most casual player you'll ever find, I adore it actually. But yes some of the skills I wish I could change. At the same time, I like how I can better understand my opponent. DRK vs DRK is a game of who can time their stuns the best.

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Originally Posted by AriaFairchild

What you failed to mention is that Holy Spirit with Quiescat up is an insane spammable 25y snipe with silence that can harass healers and casters alike :P

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For one cast then your MP is under the % threshold to benefit from it anymore.

We have no chase capabilities. It's pretty frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Kerwin

For one cast then your MP is under the % threshold to benefit from it anymore.

We have no chase capabilities. It's pretty frustrating.

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??? Did you just read the PvE tooltip and make an assumption? That isn't even how it works. As long as PvP's Requiescat buff is up (obtainable from any MP percentage), your casts are enhanced.