I'm enjoying the new WHM >,>

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

Its not RNG when Cure 2 is 100%. adjust how you heal

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TBH I'd rather just not use lilies than make my play worse. Like, you should prob be casting cure 2 over cure now sure, but honestly how many times will you actually need cure 2 if everyone is doing their job?

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

Its not RNG when Cure 2 is 100%. adjust how you heal

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Lmao. Never in a million years is a good WHM going to drastically change their healing style to suddenly incorporate a ton of cures and cure IIs in order to attempt to make use of these awful systems that were tacked onto us. They're better off completely ignored than used at the expense of greater efficiency.

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Originally Posted by Atmora

Still doesn't require a GCD to use embrace though, which is the most important part. How many GCDs does a WHM lose over the course of a fight due to casting regen that SCH doesn't?

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lol whm needs no fairy with the power of its heals and btw Eos has no sustain so it stops to heal her self and also gets hit by mechs due to it just in case you had no clue wich means she is not healing the pt so yeah a lot going there you seem not to know

Yeah WHM is pretty good in 4.0, even though not as distinct or flashy as AST. I feel for SCH, though. Got that to 66 so far. Some nerfing was needed but that job needs to get something back. Anything.

As for WHM, here's hoping Lilies and Confessions get some fun twist :D

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Originally Posted by grumpy

lol whm needs no fairy with the power of its heals and btw Eos has no sustain so it stops to heal her self and also gets hit by mechs due to it just in case you had no clue wich means she is not healing the pt so yeah a lot going there you seem not to know

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you can micro manage Eos' heals so it only heals what you want it to, if you don't at least understand that much you honestly shouldn't voice your opinion on matters of balance. It's also not thatSCH has stronger heals, it's that SCH can use those heals off the GCD, meaning it and its co healer spend less time casting healing spells and more time casting dps spells. One of the most important parts of healer optimization is using GCDs effifiently and SCH is king of that.

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Originally Posted by tinythinker

Yeah WHM is pretty good in 4.0, even though not as distinct or flashy as AST. I feel for SCH, though. Got that to 66 so far. Some nerfing was needed but that job needs to get something back. Anything.

As for WHM, here's hoping Lilies and Confessions get some fun twist :D

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SCH just feels bad to play right now, from a numbers perspective it's fine.

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

Lmao. Never in a million years is a good WHM going to drastically change their healing style to suddenly incorporate a ton of cures and cure IIs in order to attempt to make use of these awful systems that were tacked onto us. They're better off completely ignored than used at the expense of greater efficiency.

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A cure 2 followed by a shield is hardly a drastic change. Why would anyone spam Cure 1....

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Originally Posted by Atmora

SCH just feels bad to play right now, from a numbers perspective it's fine.

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Yeah I've been leveling SCH and it's not unplayable or terrible, but, if I were auditioning right now as a healer for some reason it would be my last choice.

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Anyway, I'm sure all classes will get adjustments over time based on feedback and metrics collected by the dev team.

[QUOTE=Atmora;4256951]you can micro manage Eos' heals so it only heals what you want it to, if you don't at least understand that much you honestly shouldn't voice your opinion on matters of balance. It's also not thatSCH has stronger heals, it's that SCH can use those heals off the GCD, meaning it and its co healer spend less time casting healing spells and more time casting dps spells. One of the most important parts of healer optimization is using GCDs effifiently and SCH is king of that.[/QUOTE

lol ok man SCH just feels bad to play right now, from a numbers perspective it's fine. peace XD

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

Whm has great raid utility, it's called keeping everybody alive in almost any situation, mistakes included. Do they boost dps? Yep! I have people on my raid team that are so comfortable with my healing output that they can ignore certain mechanics. So my WHM utility is confidence, my team doesn't worry about staying alive so they can focus on their dps or trying to kill our raid leader with mechanics. I say try because I can usually keep them alive through most of it, but not all. ;)

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As can both its counterparts. Healing is not a utility because there is little White Mage can do Astro or Scholar cannot. They all simply accomplish the same thing differently. You act as those either of White Mage's counterparts would somehow struggle when Astro does just about everything White Mage can while simultaneously buffing the party. Job balance shouldn't be based around people being idiots and standing in aoes. When people refer to utility, they mean benefits unique to those jobs, i.e. Cards and Shields-- neither of which White Mage offers. It's only competitive right now because Scholar got beaten into the ground. Neither comes close to Astro's dominance.

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Originally Posted by grumpy

whm never had mana issues just bad players play whm and dont know how to heal with whm or want to spam holy and still have mana to heal get real plus Eos was nerfd btw

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If you healed and DPS'd, yes it did. No matter how good you were, White Mage simply couldn't sustain its MP pool throughout 3.x. At least not over an extended fight.