Against "Simultaneous Logout Measures"

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Originally Posted by Hezkezl

Look... I understand that the servers are being hammered with players clamoring to get in and play. But this won't solve the problem. If a server can hold a maximum of 10000 people online at one time, and there are 12000 people trying to log in, then there's going to be 2000 people left out in the rain looking in, even with this ingenious solution. Doing this forced logout will not fix the problem. Right now you're hoping that 2000 other players will get bored and logout during the day so that the 2000 left sitting out in the rain can come inside and get dry for a bit. That's been your "solution" for this problem for a years now, and it doesn't work. Players don't want to go outside and get wet, they'd rather force themselves to stay indoors. So your wise solution to this problem, is to kick everybody to the curb and force them to stand out in the rain for 10 minutes, before allowing 10k random people to get back in.

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Let me add to your statement.

Let's use your numbers. 10k allowed, 12k trying to get in. Now what happens if there are 2k in the server afking when this happens? *That* is what this is designed to fix.

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Originally Posted by HyperSMB

It will be annoying, but you will have an HOUR advance notice and it will only last ten minutes. It isn't a big deal at all. It really is a non-issue.

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Will it really be a non-issue though for DPS that sit in a DPS queue for over an hour hoping to make it into a duty before the timer kicks everyone?
I waited 75 minutes tonight for Expert Roulette. 75. Minutes. At 11pm my time (CST), so not even peak hours for NA servers. Meaning even if I attempted to queue in before the announcement, I would have still been in queue when it was announced AND probably when everyone was kicked, effectively restarting my DPS queue. Which, at that point, I probably wouldn't even bother--Verity be damned.

You know, after I sit in a log-in queue for several additional minutes after the kick timer resets.
Cactuar RARELY has queues (I don't count the silly ones of 20 people, because I can just hit "Cancel" and still make it in when I try again). The exception to our queues were the first few days of Early Access, and then it tapered off. Smaller servers don't even HAVE queues. Why punish all the servers for the few that are still so overcrowded, they're having these issues?

Quite frankly, this is a completely ridiculous measure.

People react as if the forced logout will happen during peak hours, which would cause long queues as everybody tries to log on again afterwards.
That seems unlikely to happen.
The forced logout will most likely happen during early morning or some other time when few people play. Then people will log on as they normally do in the evening spreading out the logins.

I.e. most players will likely not even notice this happening except for login queues being slightly shorter.

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Originally Posted by Rita1989

They couldn't just patch put the way the afk timer works?

It says just a data center so it will probably be Aether only that is effected unless other data centers have the same issue

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Chaos is having the issues too

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Except no login queue takes hours in any server other than Balmung, so there's no need to do this on every server other than Balmung.

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A complete lie. Cerberus sometimes has 2k+ Ques which take 2 hours.

Everyone who complains about this. Go and thank the people who sit afk while crafting or interacting with an npc to avoid being logged out. Those people are the problems

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Originally Posted by NoxLumina

It's not those 10 minutes that annoy me, it's the inevitable 2 hour queue that I don't wanna sit through after the wipe every day.

Also Hyper I hope this will apply to Odin because I don't see many afk Crafters at all ;D
I'm not blind to the good this will do but holy Christ am I not looking forward to the queues.
Not to mention instances still crash when Ixion is up, some good servers we have right there

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You dont seem to udnerstand that when all the AFK's are gone there will only be a que to log people back in, not a que that waits for people to log out. Loggin 3k people in, probably in waves, will take a few minutes.

Waiting for 3k people to log out takes hours.

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Originally Posted by Baci

Everyone who complains about this. Go and thank the people who sit afk while crafting or interacting with an npc to avoid being logged out. Those people are the problems

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But didn't you know? Apparently every single one is on Balmung! /sarcasm

maybe if people would actually log off instead of sitting afk while in a crafting window they wouldn't have to do this?

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Originally Posted by Ignnis

You realise that there will be queues getting online because of the amount of people trying to simultaneously get online? This could cause more issues, data centre crashes etc, I really don't know how i feel about this measure....

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The server will be empty. The queue will process ridiculously fast on account of there being space for you to log into. The current queue problems exist because there isn't space on the server. If this forced kick frees up even 200 places, its an improvement over the existing problems.

Of course there might be problems. There might be longer queues. There might be crashes. Thismight make things worse.
But if we're so paranoid that we'd turn away from a potential solution for fear of what might happen, We'll never find a solution that actually works.