To all those people that loved the MW and did not want an AH

I still don't want an AH.

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Originally Posted by AlexSag

Seriously, why do people do this? You don't need to make 200% profit on an item just because you can. It just makes the game that much harder for new players starting out.

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I think a lot of it has to do with the following:

1 - There's no NPC shop price to compare most of the items to
2 - It's often difficult to judge the value of HQ versions of the item, or Materia attached to it
3 - Supply vs. demand
4 - Difficulty in finding materials or making parts for the item, especially for "dated" gear
5 - People would rather be opportunistic in selling items that haven't flooded the market or have been drastically undercut rather than sell an item and get around the same amount NPC's would pay for it after taxes

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Originally Posted by vax

The problem with market ward is when you want to sell anything. You put something on 10k and someone will see that and put it to 5k... At least doesn't happen with an AH.

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Hate to break it to ya, but yes it does happen in an AH too. People would always undercut others on the AH in FFXI so their items would sell first, that's why the prices fluctuated up and down on items. Only difference is we could only see what people paid in the past on the AH so we had to play the guessing game, where here we can see what people are charging currently without the prices being hidden.

MW or AH, someone will find a way to abuse it, period.

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Originally Posted by Vorn

No, having an item up for sale indefinitely without paying money isn't an advantage. Obv you didn't read before quoting.

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And you really think an AH can't do that? I don't even...

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Originally Posted by Charismatic

And you really think an AH can't do that? I don't even...

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Well, an Auction House requires auctions. Auctions are, by definition, timed events. How exactly would you propose an indefinite auction to work?

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Originally Posted by Rokien

I still don't want an AH.

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You're still getting one if you can buy directly from a UI search window AND check sales history from there. HURP.

You can always walk to every retainer instead of enjoying the convenience that every other MMO AH has.

@OP - I loled.

I like how some of the people that were against AH features are changing their tunes. Where are all of the "oh noes, my immersion!" people?

Next step, get rid of the completely unnecessary need to set up your retainer bazaar in a crowded loosely defined room that may actually be full so that you have to set your retainer up in another, but less crowded loosely defined room so that you end up getting taxed more on your stuff - since it is now, officially, entirely unnecessary when can you just buy from the creepy AH dark alley and only serves to draw out and complicate what should be a very simple process.

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Originally Posted by Seyra

They are making possible to buy items from Item Search menu and view purchase/sales history.

It's a improvement of the Market Wards, not a totally separated system like you will have on one hand the Wards and on the other hand the "Auction House".

You still will have to venture in to place your retainer and manage it.

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Some of us were FOR a completely separate AH feature so that the MW feature that people seemed to love may be preserved.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Well, an Auction House requires auctions. Auctions are, by definition, timed events. How exactly would you propose an indefinite auction to work?

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Uh, if it worked exactly like FFXI's AH but didn't have a 7 day limit it would be exactly what he is proposing.

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Originally Posted by Demacia

You're still getting one if you can buy directly from a UI search window AND check sales history from there. HURP.

You can always walk to every retainer instead of enjoying the convenience that every other MMO AH has.

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Originally Posted by Charismatic

Uh, if it worked exactly like FFXI's AH but didn't have a 7 day limit it would be exactly what he is proposing.

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This is the part where I stress that an Auction House, by definition, is a place where auctions are held; and that auctions, by definition, are timed events.

FFXI's AH, from everything I've heard about it, was so far away from being an auction, and so crappy besides, that I have to wonder why anyone would put it forward as an example of an AH. . .

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

This is the part where I stress that an Auction House, by definition, is a place where auctions are held; and that auctions, by definition, are timed events.

FFXI's AH, from everything I've heard about it, was so far away from being an auction, and so crappy besides, that I have to wonder why anyone would put it forward as an example of an AH. . .

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IT'S A GAME. Does it matter what it's CALLED?