Fat Moogle Mount on Mogstation!

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Originally Posted by Celef

Sure, rewards we can't choose...i take those others games as exmaple but there, you can choose what your reward is, you can buy that awesone glam you've seen for months or that cool mount without having to pay more money that you actually do.
I did not even take my last sub reward because it was a gob helmet that i find crappy and ugly, some of us may like it, i don't and i might not be the only one so why can't we just choose ?

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Shame, I like the mask and the minion that came with my reward. But at least we do get somewhat frequently something out of our subs.
WoW players had to sub for 10 years to get even a single thing, a statue, made for them.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Most of MMO are F2P nowadays so I guess players are used to that kind of attitude from gaming company that NEED CS to keep developping the game and SE shamelessly uses this habit to make even more money on us :/
As long as people will see this as normal, that won't stop and considering the large amond of F2P games nowadays the mentality will probably never go back to "i bought the game, I pay a sub, why should i pay more for things that are developped using my sub money ?"

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Exactly. To be honest this mindset is the root of the state of p2w games today. These people are no better than whales from f2p games.
When I saw the data for the mount I though "something well done like this wouldn't be on the mogstation". I even tried to make quests faster so I could achieve 60 and decided to level up my crafters a bit in case I needed them to get the mount. Now here I am, A sea of salt.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Shame, I like the mask and the minion that came with my reward. But at least we do get somewhat frequently something out of our subs.
WoW players had to sub for 10 years to get even a single thing, a statue, made for them.

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And did they have, during those 10 years, to spend more money to get exclusive content via a CS like mount, Fabtasian, housing items ? (no sarcasm, real question cause i did not play WoW)

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Originally Posted by Celef

If we don't want items to be put in mog station we need to stop buying from it, they will either stop putting "exclusive" things (a loss i know but still better than that) or put it IG via grind to make money because as long as you grind, you pay a sub but, in the end, you get a chance to get your item

Of course we don't HAVE to buy it but if we like it, we have no choice but to buy it. You can eat for 3 or 4 days with 21€, why only the rich ones could get that moubnt when we all, poor included, pay the same sub ?

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Replying to bolded parts. Why should the rich have an option to buy exclusive cosmetic items? You said it yourself: because there's a chance that these items would not have been made at all if they weren't going to charge money for them. They probably have a separate budget to work with. If the items are not funded with our sub $£€ (my guess is that mog station items are funded by mog station profits) then obviously we are not entitled to the items without paying more than our sub cost.

It would be much worse to never have these cool mounts as an option at all. Same with the promotional and region exclusive items. I would love for everything to be available to everyone but if that's not going to happen I'll take the second best option and watch other people enjoy their items. Wanting to deny everyone a chance at some cosmetic items just because you can't have it smells like jealousy. You can still play the game and ride other mounts.

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Originally Posted by Celef

I know but we should not have to BUY these in a sub game. Let them add these in CS, if we, all together, stop buyint these, they might stop adding them.
I'm not against CS, i'm just against CS in a 13€ monthly game. At least make it F2P and do like some others MMO where, when you have a sub, you get CS money every month for supporting the game (like TSW - EQ2 - Rift etc).

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To me the sub doesn't mean that I get all the creative works ever made for that game without additional fees. It means I get the game, have an equal footing to play it than everyone else and there are no pay to win mechanics. WoW finally implemented pay to win in it's latest expansion but it in all fairness it also went free to play (technically).

I don't think you'll have much success talking people into not buying these items, because most people realize it's just cosmetic luxury stuff that they're funding by paying that extra cost. The retainer service is much much more concerning IMO. Now that's almost pay to win. Never seen a game company so shamelessly abusing the most basic commodity of an RPG, the inventory space.

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Originally Posted by Melorie

I though a P2P community would have way more critical sense about these subjects and instead I'm just meeting the same old whales from f2p korean mmos.

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I've never played a Korean F2P MMO but I'll gladly be compared to a whale. They are amazing, intelligent creatures.

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Originally Posted by Celef

And did they have, during those 10 years, to spend more money to get exclusive content via a CS like mount, Fabtasian, housing items ? (no sarcasm, real question cause i did not play WoW)

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10$ Minions
25$ Mounts
15$ Special Headgear Pieces
35$ Packs
The usual Name/Character/Race/Faction/Server change services.
Level boosts
AND a subscription item, which you can use ingame to redeem 30 days of playtime, that you can sell off for gold in the Auction house

Added link - https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/wow

Bought it then converted the price later which is stupid of me, but seriously how greedy of you SE! $30/Eu21 is not acceptable for a subscription game. how greedy.

This was me thinking it would be full of re-colours but I guess I was wrong. Now they are creating content for mogstation only? Man this game must be going down hill...lol

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Originally Posted by Remus

This was me thinking it would be full of re-colours but I guess I was wrong. Now they are creating content for mogstation only? Man this game must be going down hill...lol

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There's no indication of that. It seems to be doing fairly well for itself - though it's no secret that money earned from FFXIV is pumped into other projects such as FFXV.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

I love the mount :)

There are 5 mounts on the mog station:

Fat Moogle
Bennu
White Devil
Red Baron
Slepinir

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Oh yea forgot but well its just reskin of magitek so xd never cared about those two

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

$30? Just make the game F2P already.

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Which will never happen.
FFXI is still P2P after 14 years and I highly doubt FFXIV will ever go F2P.