Where is the petition for jobs to start at level 1?

Lol is funny that you already level'ed up Classes such as Gladiator and is the base of a Paladin Job, having to relevel paladin is like telling me releveling Gladiator again.

No to this.

OP: Apply to SE as a developer and see if you can fix the injustices that are cropping up from the inside.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

Lol is funny that you already level'ed up Classes such as Gladiator and is the base of a Paladin Job, having to relevel paladin is like telling me releveling Gladiator again.

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Well since you use alot of the same abilities to level classes anybody could argue that leveling MRD is leveling PUG but with a different weapon.

Just because it'll have a sword and a shield and be based off GLA does not mean it'll be identical, and besides even if you're a pro GLA, if someone smacked you with holiness and new magic and now you're a PLD you'll be a beginner and won't hold a candle to a veteran PLD.

If I recall correctly you don't need to be lv50 to upgrade your class to a job, so if I upgraded my PUG30 to MNK I'll be stuck as MNK30 until I get PUG up? or can I level up my MNK instead to 50? what will happen to my PUG? will it auto-level with my MNK or will it be stuck @30?

I'm hoping that Jobs will be a whole different animal from classes and follow a different independent system to "level up" probably be based off quests, that teach you new abilities and advance your Job level/rank/status.

I think Jobs should have there own exp bar UNLESS the quests to get skills are HARD and meant for GROUPS to do them since there for GROUP play. end of story.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you shouldnt have to grind the job seperately at all....

its an equip, that locks out abilities on your character to use other abilities and gain benefits

you are thinking too much like the final fantasy 11 "advanced job" system, which was making new jobs in itself to play on

jobs are NOT advanced classes as such, they are specialized classes which allow for you to play your classes in specific ways

and thus they will level alongside your class(in truth, jobs have NO LEVEL AT ALL)

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the words of truth, /thread imo

Ok ok ok...

Listen to this one.

What if we made the grind... No wait, don't go away just yet! Listen...

What if we made the grind... EVEN MORE OF A GRIND!

How about that? Huh? Genius right?

No?

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

You guys are OP is missing the point. Jobs are mere specializations within a class. Using a job will simply limit cross classing skills while providing job exclusive skills and gear to the user. IE

Gladiator - Uses all gladiator skills, all non restricted cross class skills, all gladiator gear.
Paladin - Uses all gladiator skills, very few cross class skills, all gladiator gear, all paladin gear, all paladin skills.

Explain to me: why would we have to level Paladin from level 1 all over again? How would that work in regards to Gladiator skills? Should we just forget them and re-learn em for our Paladin? Would we have to buy level 1 gear all over again to level nearly the same job, learn the same skills with a few new abilities along the way?

The answer is simple: NO. Within the proposed system, re-leveling a job makes no sense whatsoever. "Paladin" is not is an entirely new thing completely different from "Gladiator". Paladin is Gladiator with few extra skills. In the end, leveling a job again would be the EXACT same thing as leveling the base class AGAIN, learning an odd unique ability once in a while. Do you want to level a class, then reset it and level it again? Make a new character or go play Disgaea, lol =).

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TL;DR: Go play Disgaea OP.

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Originally Posted by Arkine

If I recall correctly you don't need to be lv50 to upgrade your class to a job, so if I upgraded my PUG30 to MNK I'll be stuck as MNK30 until I get PUG up? or can I level up my MNK instead to 50? what will happen to my PUG? will it auto-level with my MNK or will it be stuck @30?

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Every exp you earn are going direct to your current class. The jobs has no level and no exp bar, it's a part of the classes.
Don't think about it like upgrade.

If you guys want to level the jobs, stop to play the classes after level 30 and wait for 1.21

they should make the xp to lvl to lvl 2 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. yea that sounds about right, what does everyone think