diurnal sect or nocturnal sect which do you like better

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Originally Posted by nexas506

Nocturnal for me. I dont have to keep track of when everyones regen is aabout to wear off and i can focus more on the cards.

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Everyone shouldn't need regen and it shouldn't be up at all times (on everyone), I don't know what content you've been playing..... and even if for some retarded reason EVERYONE needed regen AT ALL TIMES, you have aspected helios which lasts for a whole 30s, which is the time it takes to draw 1 whole card, and this shouldn't distract you hardly at all.

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Originally Posted by Lithe

I like noct way more! Almost insta shield ftw!

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That breaks in almost .02 seconds lol, and look at how much MP it costs compared to how long it lasts, and it you want that shield to be up always then it's gonna drain your MP. Maybe if the shield didn't break SO easily it would be better. But by time I throw it up and hop into Cleric, oh guess what, shield's gone and tank is taking damage, lol.

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Originally Posted by MyaValentine

Everyone shouldn't need regen and it shouldn't be up at all times (on everyone), I don't know what content you've been playing..... and even if for some retarded reason EVERYONE needed regen AT ALL TIMES, you have aspected helios which lasts for a whole 30s, which is the time it takes to draw 1 whole card, and this shouldn't distract you hardly at all.

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First of all, how you worded that response was very rude.
second, its easier for me to throw a sheald and not have to worry about them for a few seconds, rather than keeping track of regens on a tank thats taking constant damage, so i can take that time to plan out my cards and try to line up a good combo.
Sorry not sorry that i found a play style that works for me.

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Originally Posted by nexas506

First of all, how you worded that response was very rude.
second, its easier for me to throw a sheald and not have to worry about them for a few seconds, rather than keeping track of regens on a tank thats taking constant damage, so i can take that time to plan out my cards and try to line up a good combo.
Sorry not sorry that i found a play style that works for me.

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Well, it's the internet and you'll never know exactly how I mean stuff via text; so if you took it offensive, sorry (or should I say like you do, sorry not sorry) for that.
:)

Personally, I found Noct Sect to be entirely underwhelming coming from a SCH. Even if with a WHM, I'd suggest an AST go Diurnal, unless shields are absolutely necessary for survival.

Toggle between the two. For instance regens great for most fights, esp if you are a dps healer, noct is great pre pull to give the tank a cushion if they wanna pull big without the regen hate from mobs.

They are both situational imo and I am constantly jumping between the two depending so I cant really saw I have a favorite.

What I pick really depends on the situation.

If you have a run that is mostly damage taken by the tank, noct is better for me. The increase on heals and the shield work perfect. In general I can keep a party alive even with moderate aoe dmg taken and shielding.

In instances were group aoe dmg occures frequently I go with diurnal. It saves your mp to a degree.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Toggle between the two. For instance regens great for most fights, esp if you are a dps healer, noct is great pre pull to give the tank a cushion if they wanna pull big without the regen hate from mobs.

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They can't really be toggled. You have to decide ahead of time which one to use, since the stances can't be changed while in combat. You could switch up between pulls or before a boss, but honestly there's rarely any reason to. If you're in an 8-man, you'll be in whatever stance won't be countered by the other healer, and in a 4-man you should be in Diurnal because it's vastly superior in terms of healing potential.

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Originally Posted by MyaValentine

That breaks in almost .02 seconds lol, and look at how much MP it costs compared to how long it lasts, and it you want that shield to be up always then it's gonna drain your MP. Maybe if the shield didn't break SO easily it would be better. But by time I throw it up and hop into Cleric, oh guess what, shield's gone and tank is taking damage, lol.

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Where do you people even come from? Here's some math for you. Adloquium is a 300 potency heal with a 300 potency shield that doubles to a 600 potency shield on a crit. Nocturnal Aspected Benefic is a 250 potency heal which "nullifies damage equaling 130% of the amount of HP restored." Now, the tooltip is phrased a little weirdly, but, like Adloquium, it creates a shield equal to how hard the heal hit, not how much HP was restored. Going from there, we can start doing the math. 250 x 1.3 = 325. Already, Nocturnal Aspected Benefic produces a stronger shield than a Scholar when we remove unpredictable elements from the equation, which as a healer, you should be doing so to begin with. Now we add in the 5% modifier that Nocturnal Sect provides, this boosts Aspected Benefic from a 250 potency heal with a 325 potency shield, to a 262.5 potency heal with a 341.25 potency shield. However, there is another aspect (heh) that is overlooked when comparing the two. Scholars often do not have their healing steroid available since the metagame prefers Selene over Eos. Already Nocturnal Aspected Benefic is doing just a bit more than Aldoquium does, but now we add an additional 20% (60% for the heal) to that from Synastry, which, through some code failing doesn't also boost the shield by 40% if you're casting it on the effected target, but regardless, we're looking at massive 441 potency heal with a 409.5 potency shield. This is a 950.5 potency instant cast healing spell, that costs less than Aldoquium. So not only is Aspected Benefic's potency value much greater than Aldoquium when buffed and properly modified, it is more powerful on demand, which Aldoquium certainly is not.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

They can't really be toggled. You have to decide ahead of time which one to use, since the stances can't be changed while in combat.

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Exactly, you just contradicted and proved my point in one swoop. It's all about pre-planning.
Regen is not always superior if you look more strategically and beyond basic numbers.