People who haven't cleared Contaiment Bay S1T7 (Extreme) yet.

A group I was in didn't even make it past the first mechanic numerous times.

http://i.imgur.com/bxVpbEK.png


I'm just gonna wait for my friends so we can all nuke it together.

I just won't bother

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

I pity any poor BLM in there, though.

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I feel like melee getting orange and having to run away during tethers loses more DPS from that than BLM in the whole fight from random dodging.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

I feel like melee getting orange and having to run away during tethers loses more DPS from that than BLM in the whole fight from random dodging.

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Nah, melee can move to the sides pretty late if they get might and then jump back on seph after ein sof, a guy in my group does it every time, he just runs between the snot, cuts it pretty close but I've never seen him get hit.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

I feel like melee getting orange and having to run away during tethers loses more DPS from that than BLM in the whole fight from random dodging.

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You don't have to, though.

My group does this. (Sorry for my bad paint skills)
http://i.imgur.com/NbjdDJI.png

(X = Orange debuff people, O = Blue debuff people)

well I have not even tried sephy normal yet.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

I feel like melee getting orange and having to run away during tethers loses more DPS from that than BLM in the whole fight from random dodging.

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They don't have to. Green picks up tethers and moves to the left side of the front. Orange moves up to the right side.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

You don't have to, though.

My group does this. (Sorry for my bad paint skills)

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Yep, exactly like this.

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

Well, in my experience from 2.0 to now, if you didn't clear it the first few days, the chances of getting a good pt for it are almost zero.

If anything, just go by bismarck ex when it came out. If you didn't clear it soon, you got stuck with all the bads who can't dodge, won't/don't know their job or refuse to listen to how the fight goes or people who were just so undergeared, you couldn't do it no matter how skilled people were. Sure, you'd also run into the few good people who didn't try it when it was released, but the horde of bads just outnumbers those. Which kind of sucks :/ seeing as I didn't have the money to reactivate until the other night, so I know I'll never get it done.

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I ran Bismark ex for the first time last night, through duty finder. I then ran it 10 more times to get used to it for bird farms. Only on the first run did we wipe. It's actually very easy now and I found even with new people in nearly every party we still did well.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

You don't have to, though.

My group does this. (Sorry for my bad paint skills)
http://i.imgur.com/NbjdDJI.png

(X = Orange debuff people, O = Blue debuff people)

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Oh there's enough room? We just got our 10 kills without even thinking about that. Anyway, it's not that bad of a fight for BLM in the end. Most of the stuff can be done with the use of Swiftcast and Aetherial Manipulation.

I haven't even done hard mode yet. Which leads to the same problem I have with Thordan EX and which I had with Bismarck and Ravana for the longest time - clearing content after the first few days is incredibly hard because all the good people are already farming and one tends to get stuck with the bottom line of players who couldn't clear it before.
That's fine though - I'm not gonna stop pacing myself and enjoying a new patch at my own leisure just to keep up with the people rushing through everything on day 1.
One has to have priorities, and since my satisfaction level seems to be infinitely higher than most people's, I think I'm doing something right, even if it means I won't have the shiny bird first ;)