CT is dead, please fix

Crystal Tower is dead because it's old, useless, worthless and offers nothing to anyone. It doesn't need to be fixed, it needs to be removed. FFXIV's entire platform is based on current content. Just like when a new tier of gear comes out, your old armor is instantly useless when you replace it.

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Originally Posted by DukeBurden

Crystal Tower is dead because it's old, useless, worthless and offers nothing to anyone. It doesn't need to be fixed, it needs to be removed. FFXIV's entire platform is based on current content. Just like when a new tier of gear comes out, your old armor is instantly useless when you replace it.

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Then S.E. just might as well shut the game down, because in 3 weeks 96%+ of the current content will be obsolete.

I miss running them. I would do it now but the queues are worse than PVP. If they changed the reward for the weekly from Ironworks upgrade items to Esoteric upgrade items, it would probably get people back in there. Unfortunately they're probably saving that for the Ark Void, so if they don't come up with something else, it will remain pretty dead. People still run old Coil and EX primals for glamour, but they have added appeal in that EX primals also drop ponies, and primals and Coil both count towards the tank mounts.

Also I could be wrong but I don't think you can run any of the towers unsynced, even if you go in a with a full 24 man alliance. So, that might not be an easy solution as some people are suggesting.

The other day my FC organized a server-wide alliance for the CT gauntlet because one of our friends (who only started playing a couple of months ago) had just unlocked it and wanted to run it. We've got one more fresh 50 in my FC who wants to do it too so we'll probably get another alliance together for her at some point.

I don't know why people think new players don't want to do it-- it's new content for them, so of course they're going to want to give it a try.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

We don't need it.

Find a group of likeminded people and run it unsynced.

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(sorry it's greyed out, I was on Botanist)

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Originally Posted by DukeBurden

Crystal Tower is dead because it's old, useless, worthless and offers nothing to anyone.

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Yeah, except that godsdamned fscking minion I'm still trying (and still failing) to obtain.

HEY, SE! You want to make CT insta-popular again? Make the Onion Knight and Puff of Darkness 100% GUARANTEED drops at the end of every run. Problem solved. You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by Dree-Elle

Yeah, except that godsdamned fscking minion I'm still trying (and still failing) to obtain.

HEY, SE! You want to make CT insta-popular again? Make the Onion Knight and Puff of Darkness 100% GUARANTEED drops at the end of every run. Problem solved. You're welcome.

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If they did that I'd be in there daily.

I'd like to see CT relevant again and even see it in the form as like the main scenario roulette. Like seriously that's some old content but SE made it relevant for players. Give it rewards that an older player wouldn't mind running it in the roulette if they chose. People that really don't like CT just don't do the roulette and the people that do, it is there for you to do. Frankly i enjoy running old stuff even on my higher levels for lower people. I enjoy helping out. Some do not. The best part of a game is experiencing it for the first time through and through and which many fond memories are gained in the process. Id rather not take that away from newer players just because I've been there done that.

I wouldn't mind a roulette for 24 man raids. I'd probably do it to get a tomestone for my Machinist weapon.

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Originally Posted by Adire

I disagree. I get very good experience from it, and it's partly why I've been able to level several jobs to 60 already without having the time to grind much.

And judging by the lack of complaints around the topic, especially vs FATEs at launch, and the quick queue times lately for me at least, I'd say the incentive is working as intended and is indeed worth it to many people.

Regardless, relics will soon make old content even more relevant. A healthy player base for all levels of content, it's a good thing.

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It's just math. The exp isn't bad, but you can get more from a hw dungeon at 51+. They're a fun change of pace every now and then if you're into that sort of thing, but they aren't the most xp efficient way to level by a pretty decent margin. They're just enough xp for it to be worth doing if you already wanted to do it anyways, but no more than that.

Anyways, I'm just gonna copy/paste my point until you answer it: Anyways, I already said I'd be fine with opening it up for undersized/unsynched. Why do you feel more than that is necessary?

I don't wanna run 2.0 content for 3.0 gear. There's no case (since the xp for roulettes is what I just now said) where the devs have done so thus far, which doesn't mean they never will, but it's definitely not the overt design direction of the game either. After heavensward you never need to touch 2.0 content, and I'm fine with that. You can undersize anything except CT. Add CT to the list, and problem solved. Why make it more complicated than that?

Let's just not do the new players thing. Neither of us speak for new players. I completely disagree, but neither of us can back that up, so let's just agree to disagree on that point and move on to others.