[DEV REQUEST] Balancing Character Customization

About muscle slider, it would be nice if miqo'te got same muscle body as midlander...

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Originally Posted by Letbluevannback

Honestly I'd prefer if they removed the option to toggle on/off limbal rings from Au Ras (they should always have limbal rings, like how Dunesfolk always have glossy eyes and Seekers always have cat pupils) and turn that tab into a Horn tab instead, where you can choose both main and secondary horn sets. The fact that main horns are locked to faces and secondary horns are locked to certain hairstyles is just plain dumb.

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Id so be okay with this as long as we can change our horns, it's a really big feature and yet we are stuck with either horns we like less with a face we like or vice versa

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Originally Posted by CuteWhisper

Id so be okay with this as long as we can change our horns, it's a really big featurr and yet wr are stuck with either horns we like less with a face we like or bice versa

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They did say there was a technically limitation on the amount of variables they could give each race. While they could potentially give a lot of options for individual traits (hairstyle, face, skin tone, tails), they are limited in how many traits are available to be changed on each race. That is simply due to how character model data is stored apparently. I suspect this is one of the reasons horns tend to be paired with faces on Au Ra and races like Au Ra and Miqote don't have muscle sliders.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

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Its such a lame excuse though. You look at other games and they have better character creation than FFXIV. Im not saying they are better games as a whole but come on if if they can pull it off, SE should be able to do the same. If you look at what he said before 3.0 came out, he clearly said in one of the conventions that we will be able to customize so many things with Au Ra and they are so lacking. I like the race but they really missed the mark and its kinda sad.

I want to be honest here:

I ve seen a lot character creator tools from other MMORPGs. From very limited (WoW) until endless (Star Trek, Black Desert), I ve seen everything. But the character creator from FFXIV is one of the best. I tell you why:

1. You have many options, but not too much.
2. You cant mess up things. Even if you try hard, you still fit into the lore.
3. You can make a beautiful character with less effort.

The problem with character creators like in Black Desert or Blade and Soul is, that you can do too much. I ve spent more than 3 hours on one character, by changing every single detail of hairstyle, face and body. At first I was satisfied, but a few hours later in the game, I realized, that I messed up my character. Legs to high or face to small, i dont know.

So, when it comes to improve the Character Customization:

• Add a booty slider (yeah, its still a thing. Let us be 1.0-sexy xD)
• Seperate horns, hairstyles and face types from Au Ra (still some space for improvements here)
• Allow to use body-parts from other races (like Elezen-ears for Hyur. Hilda approves)

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Originally Posted by Fitzy

Lets see if i can put this into easy terms to understand.

Picture memory as a number of slots. Now assume we have 4 available slots for facial features. These 4 slots can be filled out for example with face, eyes, nose, mouth. We are now using all of our available slots for these 4 customisation options. The reason we cant have the horns and face as a separate option is because this would create a 5th customisation option, but we only have room for 4 options.

As for why adding extra hairstyles doesn't affect this is because even if we have 100 different hairstyles to choose from, ONLY 1 hairstyle (the one you choose) is actually taking up 1 of the 4 available memory slots.

The number of total hairstyles we have to choose from is likely to have its own separate memory allocation but that's another issue on its own. You have to view memory as the separate parts that they belong to to make up the whole.

Its a similar issue to the common misconceptions that people have with inventory space. They wonder why if we can purchase an extra retainer, why cant that extra space just be given on our characters. Its the same issue, 1 character with 100 slots plus 1 retainer uses the same amount of available memory when they summon a retainer as a person with 1 character with 100 slots and 10 retainers. Because only 1 retainer memory is loaded up at any given time. The character inventory memory remains the same at 100 slots

But if we had a person who has a character with 200 slots and 1 retainer, they are suddenly using almost 2 times the memory of the person who only has 100 slots and 1 retainer because that character inventory has to be loaded in memory at all times.

And lets not even get started on the technical side of what memory means cause that just gets even more confusing, does it refer to space on a HDD, or RAM or even the capacity of your bandwidth. Most people on these forums think it refers to HDD space, but in most instances, it refers to the later two areas.

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This would make sense to me perhaps in regards to low-RAM systems like a PS3, but beyond that... We have MMOs out right now with some 20+ sliders, another 6 palette choices per character, atop an inventory of up to some 50 slots, banks with another 50, and every item you've ever worn stored alike to an achievement in memory for instant appearance access... If that really comes down to a compromise between character appearance choices, item storage, (and perhaps even achievement storage), I'd rather have the actual appearance choices and just see glamour requirements revised and "optimal for" gear returned.

Now, honestly, I don't think XIV's character creator wants for much. The poster above me has already listed all I'd really want added, apart from the ability to modify some of my emotes, running animation (to avoid the fem hyur flappy arms) or create 'expression sets'.

*Ignore sig. Forgot to turn off. Post way out of date.

We're highly unlikely to get face/body options in place of new hairstyles simply because the entirety of the players can go to an aesthetician to change their hair, but many or most would be unlikely to buy a fantasia to try on a new nose or chin.

So far we have received one "free" fantasia an expansion. I don't see them adding options to the CC in patches, but an update accompanied by an expansion (and the free fantasia) would be appropriate. If they can or will actually do that is another matter.

I want more options myself. I don't want an extremely complex CC like say the the one in Dragon Age: Inquisition, but more ear/horns, body-type sliders, facial features, tails etc would be nice.

It'll happen when they get the logic to stop supporting the ps3 as that's where the majority of the "memory" issues come from. Course this is just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Slirith

It'll happen when they get the logic to stop supporting the ps3 as that's where the majority of the "memory" issues come from. Course this is just my opinion.

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Sadly it was confirmed at the EU fanfest that it will not be happening :( even with PS3 dropped..