"Huge lack of tanks and healers in the game"

So I think we all learned that if you go AFK, change to DPS first? :confused:

No need to cite anecdotal evidence when you have real data at this point. There's 3 times as many DPS for every tank or healer.

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Originally Posted by NovaLevossida

No need to cite anecdotal evidence when you have real data at this point. There's 3 times as many DPS for every tank or healer.

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Funnily enough, the eorzea census data is contradictory. If you count and add the number of people player ast + sch + whm, it gives you a larger percentage than that role breakdown graph.

SE doesn't share any info about their methodology in the slightest so it's impossible to say why this might be. But the data isn't very trustworthy.

my main is brd , but after leveling SCH to 60, i heal DR all the time , by the time my bard to finally enters , my healer is leaving the dungeon, its not like i need gear from expert dungeons ....

level a tank or healer and enjoy faster queues ^^ , be the change you want to see in the world of eorzea :p

lots of tanks healers u see online ,before queuing ask in FC chat or LS if any1 wants to join....guess what? usually 5-6 dps say : ME!!!! , invite!!.....

The two tank jobs I cared to level are both 60 now so I don't normally use either one in any roulette where a sub 60 job can get XP. And I usually run EX as dps because who doesn't want to use a space laser (Deathflare)? The queue times aren't bad enough yet to encourage me into running as a healer or tank. I do run Alex normal as tank though, usually with other people in my free company. I really want that panther mount. XD

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Originally Posted by HolyGlassofWater

Just sitting there for hours and hours lengthening everyone's que times by doing nothing.

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Can't believe this actually has a like, even if it is just the one. Such entitlement.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

Theres no tank shortage.

There IS a shortage of tanks willing to put up with PuGs in the DF though.

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Pretty much this.

I like to heal in this game, it's fun. But i don't like to heal pugs. I can hardly do one a day. It will either be the most stressful part of my week, or a breeze. And i don't like them odds.

I can't even run with my FC because only a handful of them have actually reached 60, the rest just procrastinate.

The only PUGs I run are on my daily roulettes. Other than that I'm running with FC and LS mates. But you won't usually see ME standing around town afk lol. I have alt jobs to level, stuff to craft and gather, and generally too much to do.

I have to agree with the others in this topic if you want tank Que times level a tank that is what I did. This is especially helpful for when they reintroduced old content through dungeon atmas. Although I have to say tanking or healing isn't for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Firepower

You don't get many tanks in duty finder because of this:

Expert roulette - "you are not pulling enough", "wear STR accessories"
Levelling roulette - "don't pull those enemies", "speed up", I want to kill them all", "I'll pull these enemies for you"
Main Scenario - "Don't you know the shortcuts?" "run past these mobs and click that button"

On top of this it is generally accepted that you automatically know every single piece of information about every pull, boss and dungeon even before you have even entered it.

For DPS you just turn up and follow the tank and nobody will say anything to you even if you suck. If the healer stands around and just tops off the tank's HP and does nothing else, it goes a little slower but nobody mentions anything. But as soon as the Tank has a bit extra HP doesn't stance dance or pull every mob in the dungeon even if its their first time they are instantly the worst players in the world. All for maybe 1-3 minutes off the total run time.

It frustrates me when I really want to continue playing DRK but just slowly slip towards going back to MNK because of all the additional frustration caused by the player base towards the role.

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Amen. That guy knows how things goes.

I took a forced break (new family and kids) now i'm coming back in the game playing more often. But I got my lvl 60, doing dungeons one at a time, and when I enter, this is what I type:

"Heya guys, first time in here, please be gentle ^^ "

there shouldn't be a real need to "be gentle" but I was lucky so far to encounter great people and understanding.

also, I hate speed runs.

I'm here to spend my precious free time when I'm not working, not taking care of the kids, and wifey, to play a game, and having fun (got my iLvl180 Sword and Shield that I can dye yesterday, very happy woot!)

In MMORPGs, I was always a Demonologist/Black Mage/Magic-you-name-it type of glass cannon.

This game, when I saw the long queues to get things done, I've soon realized that you must Heal and Tank to get better queues.

Something happened while doing that.

As a DPS, I've learned that every class has it's own potential for mistakes, and the pressure is very different. Even if I'm not the one to blast people unless being treated miserably myself, that gave me more perception towards the game, and why someone does this instead of that etc..

And.. I learned to pretty like the Tank roles! ^^

If someone has never played in this FFXIV all types of Characters, I don't think their opinions counts, except knowing their job (one and only) well.

This is a game, if we are speed running to get all the tomes in one day, where is the fun in it?

For some, that could be their fun.

Respect those in which it ain't so.

No matter the age, we'll get through the trial/dungeon/whatever, even if slower than expected, some are learning and open to new tips to improve, but no one is forced to play the way others want them to be.

Let's have fun everyone instead of being the number one! there will always someone to surpass you at some point, so let's enjoy the ride that this good game deserves!

/Cheer