No Dev Response?

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Originally Posted by Alkoun

I hate to admit it, but this is correct. On Rabanastre, I'd say about 75% of the shouting for parties I see in Uldah are for PL parties. What if I don't want to PL or I don't have a level 50? Think that 25% or less would be on and available and have the level-appropriate classes needed to fulfill the necessary roles to start a party right there and then to grind a beastman stronghold which may or may not be full of PL parties?

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You and I must be on different versions of Rab, because I've yet to see a single shout for a PL party.

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Originally Posted by Denmo

Just because of that, we should excuse the cheap EXP for DoW/DoM? I don't buy it.

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Why not? It's the player's choice. Not everything has to be an absolute grind.

Power levelling may be an issue but can we leave Solo play how it is, it feels much more balanced than it used to.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

You and I must be on different versions of Rab, because I've yet to see a single shout for a PL party.

Agreed. And even if it was true, create your own PT.


Why not? It's the player's choice. Not everything has to be an absolute grind.

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Definitely. I like PL as is. Don't like it? Don't do it. Not everyone having "fun" while grinding endlessly.

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Why not? It's the player's choice. Not everything has to be an absolute grind.

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Because as soon as you let everyone skip the grind on one thing, they start demanding it of the others. "Why am I grinding crafting and gathering if I don't have to grind battles? Why's there a grind at all? Boohoo SE I want you to remove the grind!"

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Originally Posted by Denmo

It's been nearly 2 days since 1.19, and the public outcry has almost died down to a tumult of agreeable dissent. The major topics of discussion that people want to know about have stayed alive throughout, and those that were just mere childish cries have sorted themselves out.

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You, sir, need to buy some realism. They sell it at the supermarket down the block.

Oh, and *demanding* a dev answer on whatever question is in extreme poor taste.

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Originally Posted by Denmo

Because as soon as you let everyone skip the grind on one thing, they start demanding it of the others. "Why am I grinding crafting and gathering if I don't have to grind battles? Why's there a grind at all? Boohoo SE I want you to remove the grind!"

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The "all or nothing" slippery slope argument works in both directions.

What's the point in ever stopping the grind? Why not scale things like Ifrit and Darkhold so the mobs are always a certain number of levels above the players. Then the "achievement" is saying "we beat Ifrit at level 732! Only took us sixty million experience points to reach it!" And they can make it so you need a very specific party configuration to ever reach the peak of 1k exp per hour!!!

Obviously there needs to be a line and SE has drawn it.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Obviously there needs to be a line and SE has drawn it.

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Quote please? Are you SE? Has the patch been out for so long that it's already set in stone? I must've missed this.

In any case I won't discuss PLing further in this topic. It can be locked if need be. I got my answer.

The dev team has backpedaled on a myriad of different things they "set in stone."

I will go so far as guaranteeing the inflated, full retard exp these PL parties are getting now will be adjusted and altered, if not by 1.19a, then certainly b. PLing will remain, as it should, however, I think Yoshi was naive in thinking it wouldn't be abused by everyone. We'll see a balanced, less profitable system before 1.20.

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Originally Posted by Denmo

Quote please? Are you SE? Has the patch been out for so long that it's already set in stone? I must've missed this.

In any case I won't discuss PLing further in this topic. It can be locked if need be. I got my answer.

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The burden of proof isn't on me. Yoshi said he was ok with powerleveling and released a system that permits powerleveling. Each day that goes by that there isn't a patch to fix the "zomg broken system" is one more piece of evidence that SE is monitoring the situation but has put out exactly what they meant to.

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Yoshi said he was ok with powerleveling

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How many times are people going to stupidly reply with this argument, like him saying he's "ok with powerleveling" means he's "ok with people powerleveling to 50 in a day?"

Powerleveling has an extremely wide array of possible meanings. What XIV has is about the most extreme version of it you could possibly have, so just going by chance, it's likely he didn't mean that.