SCH, Eos or Selene?

I love the AOE dispel for laziness during 4-man content. You hardly have to heal during 4-mans with either fairy. Selene has picked up traction for me in this expac with the ability changes and improvements. For serious content, you'll be weighing what's best for the group make up, amount of dps uptime you can have and strength of your cohealer.

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Originally Posted by Zaresin

Considering people with more knowledge and experience compared to your few months experience have crunched the numbers on numerous posts and sites about this, you might want to back up your post with actual data.

To the OP. Which fairy you use is situational. If you are not up to par or just not that great of healer, then eos will be your go to fairy. If you are a competent healer then Selene will be the fairy to use. Any kind of raid wide increase to damage output like Selene's remade buff does is less healing you will have to do overall. If something dies faster, less healing you should need to do over a course of a fight.

I will say this, eos is a crutch for bad healers a lot of the time. Whether it is gear related or skill related is not the problem as both are fixable. Having s potency increase to compensate for your short comings is a definition of a crutch.

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There's so much wrong in this post my eyes are bleeding right now...

Find me a group that has downed A3S that did not use EOS on P3 and P4.

I dare you, I double dare you.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

There's so much wrong in this post my eyes are bleeding right now...

Find me a group that has downed A3S that did not use EOS on P3 and P4.

I dare you, I double dare you.

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Your reading comprehension could use some work. I said a lot of the time. Not all of the time.

If you are skilled at DPSing as a Scholar and have a competent secondary healer, use Eos as you will be able to DPS much more than you could boost everyone with Selene. If it's a fight with a group who you have no experience with as Eos will allow you to recover from Tank mistakes, DPS mistakes or allow you to solo heal. If you're with a good group and you know that the other healer will not DPS, use Selene.

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Originally Posted by Zaresin

Your reading comprehension could use some work. I said a lot of the time. Not all of the time.

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Even if you said "a lot of the time", your last sentence suggests eos is only for noobs healers. Eos's job is not just to increase heal potency, but your own damage output during heal check, and Selene can't really do that.

Rouse + aoe HoT = less heal to do = better cleric stance
Better heal potency = better adlo = better cleric stance

I don't use Eos a lot but I can see the utility to have it. As a raider, I used her during A1S and probably will use her again during A3S fights.

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Originally Posted by Zaresin

Your reading comprehension could use some work. I said a lot of the time. Not all of the time.

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Originally Posted by Zaresin

If you are just not that great of healer, then eos will be your go to fairy. If you are a competent healer then Selene will be the fairy to use.

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My reading comprehension is fine..

Selene, most of the time. The current existing 4-mans aren't really hard enough to require the boost in healing, and the dps boost that's up half the time can be pretty useful with the dps checks going in end game content.
That aside though, if you're new to a certain instance and don't feel particularly confident without Eos' help, she's the one you should probably use until you feel comfortable without her.
If you're in an 8-man with two scholars though, you might want to each use one of the fairies... if you lack whm's Med 2 Eos' HoT can give you a bit more of a time window to throw out some extra dps, which is always welcome :)
If the party is so bad that you have to consider swap fairies for extra healing... to be honest, I wouldn't bother staying there in the first place. I'd rather stick to my 30 min wait to re-queue and do something else meanwhile.

I've been leaning towards using Eos in 4-mans more and more. The amount of DPS uptime you gain during WD on large pulls is substantial.

Basically when you're at the point where manual Embrace alone will keep your tank maintained, Selene is ideal. Otherwise Eos will effectively provide the greatest DPS increase since being allowed to spam Broil after placing DoTs is a big chunk of DPS.

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Originally Posted by Khyan

Even if you said "a lot of the time", your last sentence suggests eos is only for noobs healers. Eos's job is not just to increase heal potency, but your own damage output during heal check, and Selene can't really do that.

Rouse + aoe HoT = less heal to do = better cleric stance
Better heal potency = better adlo = better cleric stance

I don't use Eos a lot but I can see the utility to have it. As a raider, I used her during A1S and probably will use her again during A3S fights.

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I also said each one is situational. If you aren that great a healer then yes eos will be your go to fairy. I noticed I didn't finish the thought which isn't surprising as I was half asleep when I typed that on my phone. Should have in there "or if you need a heal boost".

Yes your will need eos periodically but if you have two competent healers Selene will be the go to fairy most of the time. Not always. The way I view the fairies are eos has more a selfish play style where majority of her skills effect only certain people outside of her aoe Hot and embrace (not really including her mag resist boost as I still never found much use for it). Selene I view as more a giving fairy as her haste buff and aoe esuna can help in dire circumstances or burn phases. Her silence is situational if your tank isn't able to silence certain abilities on time. Best when used over voice chat so you aren't silencing something when you shouldn't and only ever seen or use it when there isn't any other choice.

I personally will find myself SC summoning different fairies throughout the fight when I know what is going to happen. Do I do this often. Not really no, tend to do it more during pugs as I may not know the other healer and what they are capable of. Most of the time I just use Selene as she is more than capable of handling things while I'm in CS even in Alexander.

EoS for A1S(if cohealer isn't whm) and A3S(phase 3 and 4)

Selene for everything else.