So, I hate to open up this can of worms again, but....

I am for personal parsers.
Keep party-wide parsers as far away as possible though

I would love to have a full team DPS parser. I'd accept personal parsers, but I think that will cause more problems than having a team one.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

I would love to have a full team DPS parser. I'd accept personal parsers, but I think that will cause more problems than having a team one.

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How would it cause problems, may I ask? A personal one could simply be used to evaluate and improve yourself

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Originally Posted by Zari

How would it cause problems, may I ask? A personal one could simply be used to evaluate and improve yourself

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And a team parser could simply be used to evaluate and improve your team. See what I did there?

It's all well and good in theory, but theory and practice don't always match. Case in point:

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Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes

Except when parties kick you for not sharing your parse numbers. Or when people lie about their numbers to avoid "harassment." Or when people just look at their parse numbers without any context or comparrison and just keep doing what they're doing thinking they're doing okay.

I'm just saying, if we're only gonna assume the worst for group parsers, we should do the same for personal ones. Only fair.

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Yeah, we kind of need parsers. They've gone overboard with enrage mechanics, but part of the reason enrage mechanics evolved to become as tight as they are today was due to the presence of parser addons. These are extremely tight DD checks, yet we have no parsers by which to fine tune dps. I've been in groups that beat bosses more complex than the stuff in Savage Coil (not easily mind you), yet people who I can tell are just as skilled as my previous companions can't make the checks. We can learn to coordinate with one another and adjust strategy, but our brains make poor calculators.

Personal parser plus an option to share your parsing data with the group. This would help serious groups trying to progress. And make it the individual's discretion to share that data.

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Originally Posted by Zari

How would it cause problems, may I ask? A personal one could simply be used to evaluate and improve yourself

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People would come up with party rules, like ask everyone to post their result in chat.
Low result: you're kicked.
Refuse to answer, because it's meant to be a "personal" parser: you're kicked.

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Originally Posted by Aezelas

People would come up with party rules, like ask everyone to post their result in chat.
Low result: you're kicked.
Refuse to answer, because it's meant to be a "personal" parser: you're kicked.

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For every bad team that uses it as an excuse to kick people there will be ten that will use it to help their friend get better. The development team can't copy paste the good of WoW without the bad. If they want challenging enrage mechanics, they need parsers.

Parsers in general are a bad idea and lead to harassment. I know I've done it in other games in my more jerkish past, you're getting frustrated so you kick the people not pulling their weight, it can cause strain on guilds and in game friendships too. There has to be a better way to teach people how to dps, and gauge your performance without a parser. I don't pretend to have an answer but I'm sure someone more savvy in this stuff does.. it's bad enough this game is now making me worry about my own dps and I'm a freaking tank. This is the only game I've had this as a legit concern... not liking it.

yes absolutely +1.

Only idiots say otherwise.

faust savage ( the QQ topic of the day for reditards ) is a piece of piss, soo easy. But it has a stiff requirement: You must play your job optimally. People NEED to be able to gauge their performance. We all have been there when we 1st downloaded act "gosh my damage sux" *scratches head* and then begins the process of self improvement and frankly I find it terribly unfair that players do not have this ability to check their OWN dps and performance, particularly ps players who don't have access to act.