What I find very funny

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Northern thanalan fates give more xp than ishgard level 51 fates.

They really messed up.

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Have you got the numbers with the conditions? I'm thinking about the pre-50 Armoury Bonus of +100% versus leveling your highest level job after 50 meaning 0% armoury bonus.

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Originally Posted by Zfz

Have you got the numbers with the conditions? I'm thinking about the pre-50 Armoury Bonus of +100% versus leveling your highest level job after 50 meaning 0% armoury bonus.

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Everyone always brings up the armory bonus, but no, the numbers are actually higher in northern thanalan, albeit marginally, regardless.
There are so many level 51+ people in northern thanalan on my server it speaks for itself, also helps the fates are faster.

most people are still working on gearing up so leveling alt classes/ fate farming isnt high on thier priority list right now.. but in saying that higher level maps theres alot of people doing boss fates

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

Those very same people who wanted the sense of danger

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Whats dangerous about monster that may as well be spiked to the ground? Making them have more HP and Damage does nothing if pissing one off involves moving 5 feet away to de-agro it.

Most people are probably just doing MSQ and sidequests to get to 60 and then gearing up. FATEs are and always were the way to exp your alt jobs. They will also give 50% more xp on alt jobs so it is fine. ,)

I do HW fates when I need a break from dungeon grinding. Not great XP for sure. But it's a good way to chill while getting a little XP.

HW fates need to reward exp proportional to the mob stats. so about 2x or 3x?

Otherwise going back to ole 45-50 ARR fates is far more exp per hour.

I suppose people expressed the wrong thing. People were upset that overworld mobs were super easy AND gave crap exp. SE just made them harder (hit harder and more hp) but they don't give enhanced exp for your effort so it's just less worth it to bother.

Maybe some people were genuinely annoyed that running through the world was too safe, but simply making mobs live longer and possibly kill you (only if you stick around though) won't make people pay attention to them.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

I find it funny also people started to attack me over this, what are they afraid of SE see's this and nerfs the area's well if I were them I would be hurrying up and packing the area's cause if they don't see improvement in those area's im pretty sure they are going to do some adjustments.

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Sorry, my post wasn't meant to be an attack. I like stronger mobs personally as long as they aren't on the main paths, heavy pisses me off.

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Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos

Are you kidding. Not true at all. Even when I am 2 levels ahead of a mob with up to date gear, they still get me to low health. They hit a lot harder than ARR mobs. It's not just more health.

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Lol get good. It's still the same as it was, dodge telegraphs, push dps, they just have a bigger hp pool, there's nothing new here.