The whole Summoner "has been re-worked" is sad

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

you mean worthless? ohh nooooo

p.s ff 6 7 8 9 10 12 will like to speak to you about worthless summons.

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May "worthless" for you? but thats the way SMN play... summoning stuff and they do the damage "for you" , if u dont like to "summon worthless stuff" play a nuker ,like blm, and do the damage "yourself"

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Originally Posted by Valoiz

May "worthless" for you? but thats the way SMN play... summoning stuff and they do the damage "for you" , if u dont like to "summon worthless stuff" play a nuker ,like blm, and do the damage "yourself"

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the point being they always did white magic (healing) or black magic too. and the summons were mp guzzling worthless dps.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

you mean worthless? ohh nooooo

p.s ff 6 7 8 9 10 12 will like to speak to you about worthless summons.

p.s.s i forgot about 4 rydia's summons were horrible compared to her op black magic

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This is a more of "Different Strokes for all the folks" because I used them all the time.
Just because they suck to you, didn't for everyone else.
X's were the best. Edit: I also liked BD's.

Screw new egis, I'd rather have Bahamut skills. Like someone noted, if we did have 6 different egis, there'll be maybe 1 or 2 that'll be determined to be the "best" one, and the others will never be used. Kinda like the current Tri-Disaster! I'd rather them give SMN skills that are actually worth using, which looks to be the case.

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Originally Posted by Valoiz

swiggity swoogy

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You know there are more than 2 final fantasy games right? And that the gameplay/ascetics changes for each one? Everyone has their favorite version of summoner, but there's no "true summoner." Summoner is whatever SE decides it is.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

This is a more of "Different Strokes for all the folks" because I used them all the time.
Just because they suck to you, didn't for everyone else.
X's were the best. Edit: I also liked BD's.

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this i agree with, what i was merely pointing out was people saying that summons only summoned, which is bs.

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Originally Posted by Malevicton

You know there are more than 2 final fantasy games right? And that the gameplay/ascetics changes for each one? Everyone has their favorite version of summoner, but there's no "true summoner." Summoner is whatever SE decides it is.

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^--- this

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Originally Posted by Anneliese

Screw new egis, I'd rather have Bahamut skills. Like someone noted, if we did have 6 different egis, there'll be maybe 1 or 2 that'll be determined to be the "best" one, and the others will never be used. Kinda like the current Tri-Disaster! I'd rather them give SMN skills that are actually worth using, which looks to be the case.

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They should rework the egis how classic summon worked, away from pets.
Give every egi only 1 strong attack or buff skill, make the summoning cast time around 20 sec and the moment an egi get summoned it do the skill and vanish again. And between the summons the Summoner use his other skills.

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Originally Posted by Amaret

Oh come on. Stop saying that they said 100% they will add new egi's.
They only said -IF- they add new Egis it only will be with a increase of the level.

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Oh really?

"It's a cute summon, but in the future you'll be able to summon a certain old man and a sister clothed in ice who's also quite cute. Although actually I wish I could copy the Mammet with the Mirage Prism.
--Are those summons coming next, or will Leviathan?
Y: Leviathan, hmm... I'm not sure whether Ramuh or Leviathan will come first (laughs). I think it'll happen when the level cap is raised, so I really can't say yet."

Yep... no mention of Leviathan at all. Nope. No siree.
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201404/26052432.html

Granted they didn't say when. But now they've pretty much flatly said there's no new summons on the horizon, so they've kind of killed the dream.

SMN is looking cool. If you read the live translation it explains it better.
Basically when all dots are on we had wait time where we just spam ruin.
Now we gain dps stacks where we use these skills at the time dots are ticking away. As we do fester as well at these times.
Tri uses a stack so cast that then contagion then do your behamut attacks

Levi/Ramuh/Shiva being summoned as skins of the current Egis still matches his description.