2.55 Main Scenario Requirement.

I'm going to leave this thread. Moderators, please delete this thread if you see this. It is clear that no one is able to have a discussion about the perceived problems and instead this thread simply boils down to a large flame fest. I think it is an issue and should be discussed, but clearly the maturity level on these forums can't get away from one sided flaming and bashing. I'm just going to leave this thread with this quote which I think sums up my concerns pretty well:

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Originally Posted by JimboTCB

Personally, I'm looking forward to approximately one week after 3.0 when the forums will get flooded with brand new players who've just hit 50 and are all hyped to finally get into the expansion they just bought the game on the basis of, only to find out they've got a hundred-odd quests of pointless busywork and redundant old dungeons to slog through first.

It's a horrible design decision that the ravening fanboys on the forums will defend to the end and shout down anyone who dares to suggest that the game should be anything other than completely unwelcoming and inaccessible for brand new players. It's bad enough that the new jobs (which, again, are a major selling point of the expansion) are gated behind 2.55 completion, but gating the new zones behind it as well is certain to make for a horrible new player experience.

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If you think the main scenario quests will take you any further than level 51 you obviously don't remember having to FATE/Dungeon grind during the last few levels because 20+ quests only got you 1/5 of a level.

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Originally Posted by Rendecrow

Its simple. Let the 51+ zones be accessible to everyone. This hardly "damages" the game experiance for veteran players as the new players will still have to go back and do the quests to unlock the dungeons and raids.

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Sure, let them access.
But to unlock the first dungeon there will require a lv51+ mainstoy quest. To buy a license for flying around would also require a mainstory quest. To unlock the new primals will require a mainstory quest. To unlock all the lv 60 content will require mainstory quest.

But the most important is that they can enter the new zones for sightseeing, right?

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Originally Posted by Rendecrow

I'm going to leave this thread. Moderators, please delete this thread if you see this. It is clear that no one is able to have a discussion about the perceived problems and instead this thread simply boils down to a large flame fest. I think it is an issue and should be discussed, but clearly the maturity level on these forums can't get away from one sided flaming and bashing. I'm just going to leave this thread with this quote which I think sums up my concerns pretty well:

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Flame fest? No one has insulted you or flamed you. Instead everyone has given you a dozen reasons why they CANNOT remove the MSQ requirement. The entire game hinges on the MSQ and is the primary means of unlocking access to content and gameplay systems.

You have had your argument rebutted and you have no counter-argument so you accuse everyone of flaming you. If anything this shows that it is you that had no real interest in a discussion. You just want people to agree with you.

Yes, some players (the impatient players with no interest in the story) may find the 2.55 MSQ requirement for access to Ishgard frustrating. Those same players will find most of the game frustrating though since the entire game requires MSQ completion to do anything. That's really all there is to it.

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Originally Posted by Rendecrow

I'm going to leave this thread. Moderators, please delete this thread if you see this. It is clear that no one is able to have a discussion about the perceived problems and instead this thread simply boils down to a large flame fest. I think it is an issue and should be discussed, but clearly the maturity level on these forums can't get away from one sided flaming and bashing. I'm just going to leave this thread with this quote which I think sums up my concerns pretty well:

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This just in...dissenting opinions equal flaming and immaturity. Just because people disagree does not equate to no one being able to discuss this, personally I think this is an overblown issue that will not have the effect you think it will. A reasoned argument pointing out the short-sightedness of what removing the MSQ would require on part of SE is not fighting with anyone. It's bringing the issue to the attention of some they may have not thought that far ahead.

Easing/removing requirements also lets RMT more easily slip into the new areas and pollute it with shout spam and the like. If Ishgard becomes a new hub they are the last players you want there, as you'll basically have to filter shout chat entirely. No one wins with that scenario.

I believe they mentioned at the Niconico event they were going to be changing some 2.0 and up stuff. For all we know that means quests. They could just be making the transition easier for new/returning players. I mean the que for cape westwind for example is pretty awful right now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them making it slightly faster to get into 3.0. There were some pointless fetch quests in there. Other then that though it really doesn't take that long to finish the story up to 2.55.

We get it, as long as we don't agree with you we are immature and we obviously ignore your opinions etc.
Not everyone will agree with you and some of your ideas will just be denied, you should better get used to it.

And asking for deleting a thread that showed attitude of community to the matter of 2.0-2.55 that doesn't suit you is just plain selfish.
This thread and many others about this matter just serve as a way to show to devs what community thinks about the gating future story behind previous story.

I think this thread should be left up to let the developers know what the playerbase has shown it actually wants. Don't tuck in your tail and demand your thread be deleted just because your opinion isn't law.

Last I recall I don't remember seeing any EXP rewards for any of the level 50 main quests...

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Originally Posted by Higashikata

Last I recall I don't remember seeing any EXP rewards for any of the level 50 main quests...

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Because there's no point because we're all (capped at) level 50. A lot of rewards in this game also change as you hit level 50. Stuff (not quests; I mean like DF roulettes and such) that gave xp at lower levels may give tomestones at level 50, plus the amount of xp etc. is adjusted based on level.

People think that once level cap is raised, it's quite likely that level 50 quests will start to give xp. Do you disagree with that? Just because it doesn't give xp now, there's NO WAY it could be changed...?