Answers About the Archons

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

I especially wouldn't take that piece of art seriously though, as it was just a big April Fools Joke by the development team back during the Beta Test (when the forums were constantly going on about wanting a new race in the game (this was before the au ra had even been thought of), and because players were constantly requesting the Ivalice games' bangaa and viera races to be added, the development team jokingly fused them to create the vianga race, which that pic was supposedly 'super confidential concept art' of. Except it was a giant piece of humbug on the development team's part. ;)

No doubt the Scions' 'eye' symbol appearing on it was just a means to further the joke in ways only Yoshi and the rest of the development team knows. ;)

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personally i would have preferred if they brought the padjal race (the race of the seedseer's and the leader of the conjurer's guild) rather than the au ra...

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Originally Posted by dragoelete

personally i would have preferred if they brought the padjal race (the race of the seedseer's and the leader of the conjurer's guild) rather than the au ra...

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Thing is Padjal isnt a race. The Elementals personally choose a select few to be Padjals and they are always uncredibly few in number becauae od that. So it wouldnt make sense lore was for them to be a playable race.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Thing is Padjal isnt a race. The Elementals personally choose a select few to be Padjals and they are always uncredibly few in number becauae od that. So it wouldnt make sense lore was for them to be a playable race.

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then whatever the race is that looks like an elezen/hyur with horns...

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

I have a good question regarding that eye symbol: Why does it look so much like the Yevon symbol fused with a vague outline of Zodiark (the esper)?

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Because Zodiark is the embodiment of our sins, and though we may earn respite through the noble and selfless sacrifice of an Archon who completes the pilgrimage, so long as we continue to sin he can never truly be defeated.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Because Zodiark is the embodiment of our sins, and though we may earn respite through the noble and selfless sacrifice of an Archon who completes the pilgrimage, so long as we continue to sin he can never truly be defeated.

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we don't know that yet ... for all we know he could rlly be a primal created by the ascians... (would explain the fanatic zealotry to him)

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Originally Posted by dragoelete

we don't know that yet ... for all we know he could rlly be a primal created by the ascians... (would explain the fanatic zealotry to him)

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Ascians know everything about Primal summoning, they wouldn't worship a false a god and would have no trouble creating a Zodiark primal I'm sure, if anything Zodiark is a Warring Divinity / Eikon / True God.

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Originally Posted by dragoelete

then whatever the race is that looks like an elezen/hyur with horns...

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Padjal are Hyur-born and only chosen from specific bloodlines, the Pesi and Senna family being among those. And as Kaiser said, they will never be playable. Your best bet at replicating a Padjal would be to roll a Hyur and pick up some antlers from the next christmas event.

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Originally Posted by dragoelete

personally i would have preferred if they brought the padjal race

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Problem there is that it's irreconcilable with the world-lore as it presently exists. The Padjal are chosen from specific races among specific Gridanian families by the Elementals to act as their intermediaries with the people of the city-state, and as children at that. A Padjali adventurer, even if they took up conjury and white magic, would still leave the Shroud and spend all their time adventuring and playing the game, meaning that an Elemental would never choose them in the first place. SE would have to both radically change their place in the world as well as create customizable models of children belonging only to certain races. People hoping for playable Padjal can probably wistfully give up on that hope.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Problem there is that it's irreconcilable with the world-lore as it presently exists. The Padjal are chosen from specific races among specific Gridanian families by the Elementals to act as their intermediaries with the people of the city-state, and as children at that. A Padjali adventurer, even if they took up conjury and white magic, would still leave the Shroud and spend all their time adventuring and playing the game, meaning that an Elemental would never choose them in the first place. SE would have to both radically change their place in the world as well as create customizable models of children belonging only to certain races. People hoping for playable Padjal can probably wistfully give up on that hope.

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but whats stopping an elemental from outside Gridania from making someone a padjal? i somewhat doubt that elementals only reside in the gridanian forest...

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Originally Posted by dragoelete

but whats stopping an elemental from outside Gridania from making someone a padjal? i somewhat doubt that elementals only reside in the gridanian forest...

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The elementals that exist out side the shroud are even weaker. Theh wernt as strong as the shroud's to begin with so the calamity may have out right destroyed alot of them. If the Shroud's elementals were dangerously weakened I'd hate to think what happened to the ones out side of the shroud.