The pull factor of Pay to Play

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Originally Posted by Delily

As absolutely NOTHING in the cash shop impact core game play, I don't care. As long as content is paid for by subscription fees, I don't mind.

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Doesn't bother me in the slightest that the store is here. It's 100% cosmetic and when I see people with the rewards I only think to myself "wow, what a waste," but never do I think to myself "holy crap I just have to get that or I won't progress." So I can live with it even though this is p2p. The size of the free content patches are so large that a few mounts or pets are easily ignored.

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Originally Posted by Sholah

Everything in the cash shop is content that isn't paid for by subscription fees. You are delusional.

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Minions, dyes, and a "premium" wedding experience are not content. They are not an experience. They are vanity items.

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Are you concerned that development time might be spent on making cash shop items rather than core game play? It certainly seems to have a better effort/reward ratio than developing new battle content.

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Not at all. Minions, mounts, and dyes are reskins of existing items, the development time on them, as compared to new armor sets, quests, and stories is negligible.

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Originally Posted by Aegis

Has the introduction of items behind a pay wall meant the game has lost its P2P pull factor to you?

Was the fact that it was purely P2P never a factor in your purchase?

Has the game gotten better because of the cash shop in your eyes?

To those of you for whom it is an issue, is it enough of an issue to cause you to cancel your sub?

To both sides: Do you see a difference in paying for Server Transfers compared to paying for Minions, how about paying for Fantasias?

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1. It is wearing it's pull on me. The only real thing that bothers me, is the Marriage thing...that is a real annoyance and it seems it was done with the intent of people "needing" it vs. wanting it. I don't like that one bit...but not enough to make me quit.

2. Yes, it was a factor, it was a very important factor. Even though I love FF series, if it was F2P, I would not have joined.

3. I'm sure the game has been improved behind the scenes in some ways, but one example of it not getting better is, again, the spending of our hard earned cash on putting the "better" wedding experience behind a cash shop.

4. No.

5. Yes, a server transfer is a special, should be one time thing, because otherwise people will take advantage of it, and make this wonderful (for the most part in my experience) community suffer.


@Yoshida-san, and team. This is one of those instances that you as game players should realize how annoying this is, and if you are trying to find the limit, you guys are playing a dangerous game. You guys may be gamblers, but please look to "Xbox One" as an example of what the gaming community is capable of doing.

You guys can make more money sure...but in the long run is it more than what it could have been? I hope you guys can answer this with real facts and data. remember 10,000 tests is the minimum to get more accurate results.

-Tari

p.s

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Originally Posted by Arkine

Not going to lie, I'm somewhat reconsidering preordering heavensward. I kinda want to wait and see if they take it too far with the cash shop at that point.

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Originally Posted by Delily

Minions, dyes, and a "premium" wedding experience are not content.

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Yes, they are. Everything in the game is content. These are things that were created, and then cut out of the proper game to put into a cash shop to get extra money out of you. EVERYTHING is content, not just Coil.

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Originally Posted by Ashgarth

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Aren't you cute. I don't have to buy anything in the cash shop to finish dungeon runs, quests, participate in PvP, or craft gear. Talk to me once that happens.

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Originally Posted by Sholah

Yes, they are. Everything in the game is content. These are things that were created, and then cut out of the proper game to put into a cash shop to get extra money out of you. EVERYTHING is content, not just Coil.

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They are cosmetic vanity items. Content is quests, dungeons, etc. I mean we can keep playing semantics here, if you want.

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Originally Posted by Delily

Aren't you cute. I don't have to buy anything in the cash shop to finish dungeon runs, quests, participate in PvP, or craft gear. Talk to me once that happens.

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Ok, I will.

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Originally Posted by Delily

They are cosmetic vanity items. Content is quests, dungeons, etc. I mean we can keep playing semantics here, if you want.

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Cosmetic vanity items are a part of the game. Once upon a time, these things would have been quest rewards, or rare drops. Now? They shoved it into the cash shop because people like you are so valiantly whiteknighting it.

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Originally Posted by Ashgarth

Ok, I will.

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Don't hold you breath. WoW's cash shop has been out for 5 years now.