Atma Rate more than Doubled in 2.4, Animus Books Cheaper

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Originally Posted by Edeline

That's exactly what I meant, they were 100k (at least on my server) right when it started and no one knew (only the most advanced in Novus) how many IVs (or if any at all) you'd need. They stood on a steady 200kish for a while and now theyre 500~600k each. And that was my point, finally getting an atma weapon so you can spend millions and millions of gil (or kill your brain SBing) really late when it's so expensive :d So it's not a pay off.

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or you can go with 3 stats, and skip the IV materias, and save miliions...
20crit=1%crit chance=0,5% increase in power.
whichever way you split it, your overall power boost, won't exceed 2-3%
so ppl are wasting millions, for nothing.

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Originally Posted by Maero

And yes having max det and crit is in fact better for me anyhow and i can make up for acc with gear.
Besides some have mentioned Nexus prefers 2 stats anyhow

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You do know how weapons work, right? Weapon damage is incredibly important, followed by your class's primary stat (at a ratio of about 1:8). Secondary stats are about as strong to your primary stat as your primary stat is to weapon damage -- that is to say not very. Beyond that, the stats on your weapon are not special. Crit on your weapon is the same as crit on your boots. Accuracy on your weapon is the same as accuracy on your ring. There's no reason at all to spend a ton of money to put a surplus of any particular stat on your weapon when they could all be spread out between your entire gear set. Nexus weapons will gain the maximum number of stats when you restrict yourself to 2, however, this difference will be mitigated when the upgrade from Nexus rears its head, potentially granting more stat points to 3-stat weapons since it's all rounding. In any case, there isn't a single class who's BiS includes a full crit/det Nexus. It's never optimal, and given the customizable nature of it, you actually can make a BiS set from it, though it would include some acc, spell/ skill speed, and/ or piety.

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Originally Posted by Becken

I did put effort into this and got nothing for it, I've done 25+ fates and no drops, so I went to do others things

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I wouldn't call 25 fates an effort.

And to the people who got offended about me calling people lazy - I really didn't mean to offend anyone. I know some people aren't lazy, just had some bad luck. But I'm speaking out of experience. I've met so many people ingame who whined and bitched about the atmas without even doing any serious farm. They did 10 fates a day, got bored and started crying about the horrible drop rates. Others got serious about getting the atmas - they stopped complaining and started to farm. They all got their upgrade in less than a week. And I'm telling you, getting animus and then novus will take you way more than a week. The atma-relic is actually one of the fastest to do.

What I'm trying to say that the RNG in this isn't even the biggest issue. It's actually the peoples attitude.

As a girl who currently owns 36 Atmas and a Nexus, I think I may talk freely without being accused to be lazy or whatsoever.
I know the Atma system very well. I have a method to get a full set of Atmas within 20 hours or so, but I STILL find this system horrible and very bad designed, no matter what approach do I use.
So, well, even if I basically do not need Atmas anymore (at least, not so urgently 'cause I will use the other three sets for the only three jobs I really care about), I am very happy that they will improve the drop rates.
Hopefully we won't get any other shitty RNG quests in the future.

Animus may be longer, but at least you can always keep track of your progression which is a key point for every step. :)

They shouldn't make a content like this from the beginning. increasing the drop rates is just shortening the boredom. this quest should be remade completely and SE should have learned their lesson not to make content like this ever again.

Nexus worst part :<

But a close second is indeed actually DOING the animus books for me. Getting them was np wtf xD

Almost makes me want to make another Nexus. The timing of the nerf seems appropriate.

I wonder is 3.0 will have a new quest or will this one continue through the expansion???

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Originally Posted by BillyBones

I wouldn't call 25 fates an effort.

And to the people who got offended about me calling people lazy - I really didn't mean to offend anyone. I know some people aren't lazy, just had some bad luck. But I'm speaking out of experience. I've met so many people ingame who whined and bitched about the atmas without even doing any serious farm. They did 10 fates a day, got bored and started crying about the horrible drop rates. Others got serious about getting the atmas - they stopped complaining and started to farm. They all got their upgrade in less than a week. And I'm telling you, getting animus and then novus will take you way more than a week. The atma-relic is actually one of the fastest to do.

What I'm trying to say that the RNG in this isn't even the biggest issue. It's actually the peoples attitude.

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For people like you, I am averaging 1.3% drop rate. 1600 fates 18 atma. 4-6 min per fate that's 5 to 6 hrs of farming per atma

I am okay with the grinding, which is why I still do this, but don't tell me rng is not a factor.i won't quit the game for any reason cause I love it, but this is horribly frustrating

Guessing it's from some live stream I missed, but where are people getting this info from?
Personally I think it was due a nerf, isn't exactly new content

As someone who has also gotten 36 Atma, with a Novus (almost Nexus) and another that I'm 30/75 toward Novus, I'm ambivalent toward this.

Like Billy said, there are definitely people out there (I have personally seen them in FC's I've been part of) that Atma farm for an hour and then quit, complaining about it like they put in real farming time.

On the flip side, I'm sure there are legitimate people who are having/have had a lot of trouble acquiring all 12.