Predict the population 6 months after PS3 release

Maybe 150k if they can get Player Companies, Jobs, more raids, classes balanced, and Ishgard out by then.

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Originally Posted by XxOstiaxX

Your point #6 intrigues me, what do you mean by, next gen MMO, whats in FFXIV that you cant find in wow/rift/eq2/lotor....

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Horizontal character development

Hmm... 500k from Chinese servers, 250k for JP PS3, 250k from RoW PS3?



(+30k current users... lol)

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Unfortunatly this is highly unlikely, yes FFXIII sold well, however because 14 is a MMO, it will sell alot less than that, just because people like final fantasy doesnt mean they will buy it, FFXI got 650k subscriptions at its peak, and that is a final fantasy game, explain that one if your so sure.

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1. At that time (FFXI launch) MMO's were still pretty niche and nerdy... Everquest players were still considered basement nerds... Today that is far from the case. From WoW to farmville, people have accepted online gaming as a viable gaming genre

2. FFXI required additional hardware... I can't think of any of my friends that had the PS2 hard drive.... the PS3 comes standard with one

3. XBox live, playstation network, netflix and gamefly have gotten people more accustomed to paying for online services... a lot more than they were 8 years ago

4. I don't think it is crazy to think that 1/6th of the people that bought FFXIII will try FFXIV.... 1 out of every 6.... that is definitely not a stretch

5. There is no MMORPG on PS3 other than DCUO....

6. WoW did 12 million with no Japanese players....

7. Monster hunter is HUGE in japan.... Japanese players want this... very badly, they want this game to succeed

8. People love a good train wreck... people will drop the money on the game just to see what all the fuss is about... I'm not saying they'll stay after the free month... but they'll get it

Need I go on?

Edit: Lawyered!

150-200k... people are stubborn about bad mmo launches (especially in NA)... even with core features redone and tons of changes/additions most people will never really care that much to come back or try it out. Will probably be enough life to keep it up and running though. People will listen to what people say about the game and not form their own opinion, and most critics won't care or be anything but biased with the game over on our shores. So definitely going for low count (Also add in new mmo's shifting even more players away)

SE was probably so ashamed of FFXIV that they didn't even show it in E3 2011. They might get a few PS3 players when it gets released, but there are so many games coming out from September to December that looks just glorious. So I say they might sell 500k copies, then maintain a little less than 100k subscribers. Then, there are also the pc players that are moving to Tera, Star Wars: The Old Republic, and Guild Wars 2, so I can see 50-70k for pc and ps3 players combined.

I'm just hoping the reaction to ps3 release isn't like pc release: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHEhKo5Ils

I'm also of the opinion that this game may never end up actually being released for the PS3. Of course I'm not saying it won't, but as things have stood for quite some time it seems very unlikely. You can say things like, "Well, SE is always mentioning that they're working on it and it's still on track yadda yadda", but could you imagine what a negative and definitive result saying anything otherwise would have on the game? They're better off lying to us for the time being if that's what it takes. Of course once again, I'm not suggesting that I believe any of this is absolutely true... But it is a concerning possibility.

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Originally Posted by Victor

I'm also of the opinion that this game may never end up actually being released for the PS3.

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Without the press surrounding the PS3 release this game is flat out doomed to failure, SE knows the PS3 launch is their last chance to garner interest in the game.

They would be borderline braindead if they decided to drop the PS3 version.

If SE continues to do business w/ CLICK N BUY they will have no player base. This company is nearly defunct. It cant keep peoples information secure and most likely sells peoples personal information to other 3rd party spam mail/ telemarketing groups.


DOES ANYONE HERE THINK ITS OK THAT Click N Buy REQUIRES PHOTO COPIES OF PERSONAL INFO AND BANK STATEMENTS TO BE FAXED TO THEM????? This is absurdly shady and intrusive and in some countries maybe illegal. I'd like to know what country/area/state/province is processing my info from this craphole of a company before i even considerd paying to play it.

ok if the game were to turn into a "hit" my prediction would be:

Age 10-15: 30k
Age 15-21: 35k
Age 21-28: 25k
Age 28-45: ~7k
Age 45-65: ~2k
Age 65+: Meowy Wowie from Fabul server