FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

Using brash or completely untrue generalizations to bring about my points, I can easily identify what I disagree with, but offer zero solutions to my perceived problems.

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Fixed for you.

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Originally Posted by Pooky_Pasha

You do realize that there is a Bluegartr (Gilgamesh) and a Bluegarter (Excalibur-world first guys). The BG forums you are talking about are affiliated with Bluegartr (Gilgamesh). If the thread you are referencing is the one I'm thinking about, it was started by someone from Sargatanas who just happens to be the same person that said they were using the radar add-on for FFXIV-App (so not in any way affiliated with either BG group except for being a member of a forum community).

So which BG group do you want to ban? Please have some clue as to what you art talking about before calling out a person or a group of people.

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If you go to the BG website, the world first people, and look through their forums, they encourage the use of third party tools like parsers. It is against TOS to use any third party tools, so yeah, they have posted on their forums that they encourage their players to break TOS.

Well i have seen some people have spent over 3000 seals, so sands is really easy to get if you do it ... "that way" .

Cuz ppl can't accept the fact when SE says no it means no.
They like to bargain with trivial things like omg parsers won't hurt anyone and we should be allowed to use it if no 1 gets hurt.
SE made an alternative and is planning to use percentages etc. but ppl r like nope.

If SE deems it wrong and does not support it, ppl will continue to do it as they make themselves think if it doesn't hurt anyone then its okay.
It's SE's game ffs... Their rules and commands should be absolute regardless if you paid to play their game. Remember it's their game not yours.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Only if SE wanted to they can quite easily - They can easily throw in dummy NPCs that you can only see if you're using said app. They did it for FFXI so I don't see why not.

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If you want to "catch" people, just rename your chocobo to a hunt in that zone and hide behind some rocks in an obscure spot. If people directly run to you then stop all confused then you know lol.

they have said in the past about 3rd party apps, if they don't know about it, then they wont bother you. Im sure yoshi-p uses some quality of life 3rd party apps. And some quality of life apps are nice especially information ones. but thats as far as defending 3rd party apps ill go.

It does suck when people set up a bot and farm and its takes lots of fun out of a game. especially with RMT tells every 5 secs.(less now with patch 2.3 but its still there). now with only a hand full of hunts. bots are gonna spam this too, making it less fun. making it a broken game. With a big game like this we shouldnt be surprised to see some people cheating the system for their own personal gain.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

If you want to "catch" people, just rename your chocobo to a hunt in that zone and hide behind some rocks in an obscure spot. If people directly run to you then stop all confused then you know lol.

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For real? Lol gotta try that

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

If you want to "catch" people, just rename your chocobo to a hunt in that zone and hide behind some rocks in an obscure spot. If people directly run to you then stop all confused then you know lol.

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remember to either record them or screenshot them so you can report them. sooner these people are found out the sooner they can be purged.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

For real? Lol gotta try that

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Yup. My assumption is that the app literally just works by looking for entities - players, monsters, etc. - bearing a certain name. It doesn't, however, discriminate between what that entity is - so a Chocobo named Naul pops an alert at location x, y just the same as actual Naul would.

I know someone on Adamantoise who has taken to doing this to screw with people for shits and giggles, and apparently an FC on another server are considering basically doing a mass trolling by making Naul pop in like twenty different places in Coerthas on and off repeatedly

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

Yup. My assumption is that the app literally just works by looking for entities - players, monsters, etc. - bearing a certain name. It doesn't, however, discriminate between what that entity is - so a Chocobo named Naul pops an alert at location x, y just the same as actual Naul would.

I know someone on Adamantoise who has taken to doing this to screw with people for shits and giggles, and apparently an FC on another server are considering basically doing a mass trolling by making Naul pop in like twenty different places in Coerthas on and off repeatedly

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In one of the treads that got locked earlier, someone had screenshots of the app, but he claimed he only has it and doesn't use it, and it had to where you could filter between enemies and npcs and what not. I'd put up a link, but he edited his post and deleted took out the picture because he was tired of people calling him a cheater.