Has anybody tried Frontlines after the update today?

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Originally Posted by Seoulstar

That is a horrible idea.

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Why is it a horrible idea for PVP gear to receive special treatment in a PVP map? What good is PVP gear if it is inferior to PVE gear in a PVP map other than for glamour? If Frontlines ilvl syncs gear and nullifies all materia, then what is the point of PVP gear existing at all? For that matter, why does Frontlines give Wolf Marks to buy gear that is inferior in PVP compared to every other piece of PVE gear already earned?

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

Why is it a horrible idea for PVP gear to receive special treatment in a PVP map? What good is PVP gear if it is inferior to PVE gear in a PVP map other than for glamour? If Frontlines ilvl syncs gear and nullifies all materia, then what is the point of PVP gear existing at all? For that matter, why does Frontlines give Wolf Marks to buy gear that is inferior in PVP compared to every other piece of PVE gear already earned?

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The problem is that they seriously messed up when designing the PvP gear. They seemed to have been attempting to make PvP gear less than optimal outside PvP. The problem came in the fact that Morale is far to strong. It has an effective ilevel of +20 in PvP and that pretty much killed PvP.

PvP equipment is hardly as bad as you think it is becuase so much gear has dead stats like Accuracy, Parry and Piety. The Bearsmaw Axe and the Direwolf Battleaxe are both better than a High Allagan Axe in Frontlines. Lionsmane Cuirass is the third best chest for Paladins. Snaketongue Spear is the 4th best Dragoon Spear after a High Allagan Spear, Liberator and Allagan Spear.

SCHOLAR OP! dont know who can win 1v1 against a scholar >_<

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

The development team is aware of the issue where players are unable to vote kick other party members while in Frontline because they are considered to be in battle, and they are currently looking into addressing this. Once the specific method for addressing and the implementation period is decided, we’ll let you know.

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thank you Q_Q

Got in a battle with 4/24 trolls DC for the entire fight (they DC/ed right when the "begin" message popped), and we were unable to kick them due to "being in battle". That was awful

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

How about the people who bought second coil victories to get High Allagan gear? See, I can speculate about illegitimate methods of getting high-end gear too.

Besides, as this is a PVP mode, PVP gear should have a slight edge--yet not a significant one--in this mode.

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To be fair even Yoshi P himself commented on the Win traded he even noticed - It's not speculation when it was a known issue even to SE :p

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

To be fair even Yoshi P himself commented on the Win traded he even noticed - It's not speculation when it was a known issue even to SE :p

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I see it having value again some time in the future once everyone has caught up with the win traders. they would probably bring back the materia effect and morale stat

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Originally Posted by Becken

Since its pvp ill pass...

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im not a pvp fan but its not THAT bad...ill prolly have more fun as a DPS than healer but its cool.
my only problem is, ppl dont communicate well...we NEED people who know what they're doing to communicate.
ik in due time ppl will since its new, but in 1game i had a whm pretty much lead my group and help out via alliance
and we wrecked faces. the other 2 i played...no one really spoke so we were confused. communcation is def key.

also, idk i dont really lik having 7 DPS AND ME as a single healer in groups...we got killed hard my last game badly
because i got targeted like a boss and there was nothing i could do lol.
no tanks no other healer just meele and a crap ton of meele dps.it was funny tbh

I'm loving the adjustments to frontlines, and I've been having a lot of fun. If I select "join in progress," my queue pops almost instantly, and it's USUALLY at the beginning of the battle (less than one minute has elapsed). This is a great fix to the problems plaguing frontlines after 2.3 hit (never getting into a game because of queue trolls). I'm looking forward to when SE implements the functionality allowing players to automatically join without being prompted by a party leader. Being able to sort based on kills, damage, heals, etc, will be a fun little bonus... if just to see where you stand among the friends you queue with.

For those that haven't tried Frontlines, I definitely would recommend it. It's like a blend of DOTA/LOL with Guild Wars. A good mix.

Frontlines is the gem of the 2.3 patch for sure!

I never played Final Fantasy for PvP.
I never thought Final Fantasy's attempts at PvP was fun.
I never had any good ideas of what they could do to fix it.

I wouldn't exactly call Frontlines "Fine Tuned and Balanced PvP" but this isn't horrible since loosing provides a significant reward making the need for balance less of an issue.

But it is absolutely fun, and it was a huge leap in the direction of having successful PvP that everyone can enjoy!

Good job SE!