How can this game not have built in voice chat?

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Originally Posted by Kuroyuki-Hime

There are people who dont want to be on voice chat 24/7, there are even no-voice FCs (and optional vioce FCs). I know that because I am in one. Guess this is implemented and what might happen then. "Activate voice or kick" is not improving random partys.

Not everyone speaks (and hears) english well, enforcing this is just a bad idea.

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Like I said...nobody can force anybody to use it. Don't want to voice chat? Just tell people you don't want to or lie and say you don't have a mic. Or just don't join parties requiring it. You can even make your own party. Seems silly to not implement a feature because people are too shy to speak up or do things on their own (make their own pt) lol.

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Originally Posted by TestSubject09

1) How is mandatory chat for raids a CON? Is typing/communicating already a requirement for these things? what am I reading!? It's an mmo.... not a single player fanfest of nonsense where we party up as mutes.

2) Female Gamers - ... I'm sorry... then just don't talk.... or you know, we can keep hiding behind this justification FOREVER making woman uncomfortable to talk.... ridiculous fear mongering.

3) Bandwith costs... REALLY..... then gives those that struggle that much the option to completely avoid receiving/seinding it... meanwhile the other 99% of mmo gamers can talk.

4) WHAT? sound effect!? wut ... just..... wut....

So I have to put up with console gamers .... that more often than not don't even have a keyboard in my parties and raids.... because of these excuses?

This is a PC/Console cross over... the ONLY way to effectively get any kind of decent level of communication is through an integrated voice chat.

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Ignoring all the other issues, there's just no room in the PS3 client for it.

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Originally Posted by Macka

Somebody haven't played call of duty, battlefield, Madden or Halo those games make me mute everybody.

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Why are you comparing the FPS community to the MMO one?
If the MMO community was like the fps one I would only play single player games.

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Originally Posted by TestSubject09

This is a PC/Console cross over... the ONLY way to effectively get any kind of decent level of communication is through an integrated voice chat.

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Or you know, you could set up macros during certain mechanics, put up signs...?

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Originally Posted by Pyreflye

Considering the amount of abuse that some players cop from simple text chat, I shudder to even think of the kind of toxicity that comes with integrated voice chat.

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Generally VC is far less toxic than text chat.
It also boils down to the community policing itself.
If someone is being a dick in VC kick him and let him know it isn't acceptable.

I've spent 100s of hours in the in game VC chat system in EQ2 and a lot of hours in the lotro one. I've never seen anyone abused in a group, ever. People had pretty much zero tolerance for it in groups and people learned quickly or played solo a lot.

It was also fairly common for people to opt out of joining chat, most of the time because they were in a different chat client with their guild. A lot of people would also connect but not have a mic connected so they could hear directions and asked questions in text.

Having built-in chat is not equivalent to needing to turn it on for everything.
I don't have an inclination to listen to or speak to any stranger I meet in real life or in game.

However, a good built-in chat will be nicer than the jumble of VC software I am made to install as time goes on. Annoyed I have to install Mumble, TS, Vent + god knows what, just to account for everyone.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Ignoring all the other issues, there's just no room in the PS3 client for it.

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I guess DCUO didn't have a functioning voice chat on the PS3... Oh wait..

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Originally Posted by Yarikh

Or you know, you could set up macros during certain mechanics, put up signs...?

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You will all defend them forever won't you.... there is more to communication than marking a target, its an MMO. That still doesn't change the fact that they can't ask questions, or acknowledge information properly.... why do we want to play with what mayaswell be bots? its suppose to be social.

And to the other person "no room in the ps3 client" ... I'm confused... but then this is another prime example of why PS3 support SHOULD eventually be dropped.... such a bottleneck.

There are many situations in complex fights where text at the start and marking does not cut it. this is why most people on PC with common sense are REQUIRED to use Vent/Team Speak/Skype while doing content with other team members..

Stop feeding the troll please.

Yes for Voice Chat at the condition that everybody has to speak esperanto.
No Esperanto, no voice chat. Sorry.