Let's talk about THAT cutscene from the main story (spoilers)

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

If I had to guess, I'm thinking Thief will be the next class (learned from this secret guild in Limsa) and Ninja will end up being the job (Yugiri will no doubt be the teacher).

First, they even say that Thancred used to be some what of a "scoundrel", so thief fits. And Yugiri even looks like a Ninja. I just think this was there way of leading into this new class/job.

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This is what me and my wife were thinking after the final cutscene.

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Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri

As for some reasoning with what ever guild being the base class, Thancred's base class will change from GLD to what ever the new class is. All of the members of the Scions are in the base classes. Yda is a Pugilist, Papalymo is a Thaumaturge, Ysholt'a is a Conjurer, Urganeir is an Arcanist. .

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Incorrect. Thancred even says that he is a Bard when you talk to him in the new hideout before the 2.2 quests were added. He was not a GLD at all and was instead masquerading as a Bard.

Also do you have a link to that live letter? I thought he said he agreed the game needed a scout class, but I don't remember him specifically using thief as a base for ninja. Even still that was him spit balling anyway and it isn't really something we can base our assumptions on.

Agreed that Merlwyb is always shooting stuff, so not a big deal.

If we do see Thief and Ninja stemming off a Scout job....we know Thancred was a Bard and Gladiator at some point. So will we see those two as cross class to the new jobs?

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Also do you have a link to that live letter? I thought he said he agreed the game needed a scout class, but I don't remember him specifically using thief as a base for ninja. Even still that was him spit balling anyway and it isn't really something we can base our assumptions on.

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During Gamescom last year (or the year before that) he did an interview with some German gaming site, and at that time he was using the word scout. But this was Japanese translated to German translated to English, so who knows.

Here we go again. Can't you just appreciate it for what it is without seeing "teasers" in every frame?

Smh some guys never learn. Never ever.

The problem with a shadow tank is that tanks in this game rely in mitigating damage on a more constant basis. With Paladin this is through block and and Warrior with parry, and both with high defense and HP. Anyone who's played ninja tanks will tell you, once those shadows are down they are as good as dead if there's no off-tank to take hate while they recast Utsusemi, and if your casting is interrupted then it's all but over. Ninjas, at least in XI, aren't tanks. They're DDs pretending to be tanks. In this game there's not alot you can dodge at-level, either. Ninja is likely going to be a DD or support Job. And yes, thief makes more sense than Thief. It's all speculation right now, though, so no point getting all uppity at peoples' opinions.

Ok, its all cool but.... How can Yugiri teach us how to ninja if she only appears during the lv50 quest? Do we unlock ninjas only @lv50? Or she will teach us @lv30 then suddenly she will be seeking asylum? Btw, Thief is probably a job not a class, xD

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Incorrect. Thancred even says that he is a Bard when you talk to him in the new hideout before the 2.2 quests were added. He was not a GLD at all and was instead masquerading as a Bard..

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He said he was a bard in the Ul'dah starting cutscene as well (if I'm recalling correctly), which was made before FFXIV had jobs (Jobs were added after Yoshi-P took over). He's referring to being like a storyteller or poet, not being the bard job as we know it. His stance with the dagger in ARR was exactly like a GLD, so that's what people referred to him as.

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Originally Posted by Seif

Here we go again. Can't you just appreciate it for what it is without seeing "teasers" in every frame?

Smh some guys never learn. Never ever.

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Speculating on what things mean for the future of the game is part of the fun. If you don't enjoy nerdy examination for the purpose of speculation, you can kindly GTFO of this thread.

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Originally Posted by Xandim

Ok, its all cool but.... How can Yugiri teach us how to ninja if she only appears during the lv50 quest? Do we unlock ninjas only @lv50? Or she will teach us @lv30 then suddenly she will be seeking asylum? Btw, Thief is probably a job not a class, xD

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Hmmm actually I'm not sure about that one. I guess it's kind of strange because Revenant's Toll is updated to have more structures and such when, if you did the quest at launch, it was in ruins as per the storyline. Maybe they'd get away with it by not having her be the main teacher, just that she, along with Thancred, have proteges who pass on the teachings.