Frustration regarding Patch 2.2

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Originally Posted by Amused

Just dropping in to say that I totally and wholeheartedly agree with your entire post. This patch was a major disappointment and everything that was added seems to require such a ridiculous grind that I find myself also saying "Why bother?" I never thought I'd feel this way about this game but if this is what the future looks like I doubt I'll be sticking around. I play for fun, not to grind away like it's another job.

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Don't let the door hit you on the way out, I'm sure you'll enjoy TSO or Wildstar, until of course it becomes too hard and you aren't instantly rewarded for something.

You shouldn't be able to blow through all the content in a day, you shouldn't be able to obtain the best items in a day, a week, heck even a month. People getting complete atma upgrades the first day the patch out is a bit disappointing to me. The fact that you think having to put any hard work into the game is a "grind" is actually rather comical to me.

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

The fact that you think having to put any hard work into the game is a "grind" is actually rather comical to me.

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The fact you think grinding some boring, repetitive task a chimp could replicate as "Hard work" is beyond comical to me.

It heartily saddens me that software companies have managed to convince the mouth-breathing masses that their laziness in releasing tiny amounts of content at a glacial pace is okay as long as it's wrapped up in some tedious grind restricted by daily/weekly lockouts.

Did everyone forget that the old Philosophy Tome materials drop from the new dungeons? And they seem to all drop 8 at a time. There's no reason anybody should be spending close to 800,000 seals on these things. Just wait until the prices for these things bottom out on the Market Board.

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Originally Posted by alexhatesmil

Did everyone forget that the old Philosophy Tome materials drop from the new dungeons? And they seem to all drop 8 at a time. There's no reason anybody should be spending close to 800,000 seals on these things. Just wait until the prices for these things bottom out on the Market Board.

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^^^^

Also, non-crafters have seals...hmmm. I wonder if there is a way...for them to use those seals...to sell items...to crafters. Welp, we'll never know!

Also: Shush. I bet 90% of the stuff you are complaining about will be solved and short-cutted by people with more fortitude and work ethic than you. Don't worry, the devs might have intended for you to have to work for this stuff, but the same people that figured out how to do stuff the easy way before will be able to teach you how to short-cut it again.

In addition: There is A LOT of stuff that was pretty freakin' instant to get. I fully glamoured my PLD in like, 4 minutes with my 50 ARM and my FC mates 50 BSM. I did all 3 HMs after the lolQuests to get them. The stuff I want really bad (tank mount, Coil9, etc) is going to take work, just the the stuff you really want (Crafting end-game) is going to require you to get to the end-game of crafting to be able to obtain it.

This patch was vertical progression, you need to ladder your skills and equipment up to obtain it. Instead of killing demons, you need to knit socks.

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Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard

The fact you think grinding some boring, repetitive task a chimp could replicate as "Hard work" is beyond comical to me.

It heartily saddens me that software companies have managed to convince the mouth-breathing masses that their laziness in releasing tiny amounts of content at a glacial pace is okay as long as it's wrapped up in some tedious grind restricted by daily/weekly lockouts.

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Have fun not enjoying the game they built, I am. Maybe you should try something different. ESO and Wildstar are coming out. See ya!

This is like complaining that there's 9 new armor sets for DoW and DoM and complaining it'll take forever to get them all.

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

ESO and Wildstar are coming out.

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Get some new material fella. The simplistic, "Herp-a-derp go play WoW lulz!" response was already old when you first started to notice the hair growing in your no-no place.

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Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard

Get some new material fella. The simplistic, "Herp-a-derp go play WoW lulz!" response was already old when you first started to notice the hair growing in your no-no place.

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Seems to really get under your skin though as you feel the need to respond to it. It's funny to me to see people outraged over this.

Oh no, you have to grind to get a reward? You mean you enjoyed logging in on monday and then not logging back in for the rest of the week?
Oh no, you can't gather the best new materials in your un-melded gathering af?
Oh no, you can't get the master recipe book without crafting items for it?

All the people who have a hard time with the "grind" they placed into the game are the ones who will mmo hop anyways, once the content gets too hard for them it's off to easy mode in another game. Yes I agree grinds don't take any real skill, but you know what grinding away toward something keeps people logging in. Those who don't like it won't be logging in, and then SE will have to ask themselves if they want to retain the current player base, or if they want to add here's a relic in a day type of content they did to cater to casuals.

It's nice to have to set goals, and carry out objectives. Not everyone is going to be geared to the teeth by welfare handouts, not everyone will be fully geared in a day, a week, a month, six months. I like that. Too bad you don't because well it seems like the update is live, and that's the way they directed the current patch content. So yeah, maybe you will enjoy TESO or Wildstar while you wait for a new patch hoping for easy modes again. :)

I for one am really enjoying the game and look forward to this patch's content. Only bummer for me is medium sized houses only get two garden plots.

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Originally Posted by alexhatesmil

Did everyone forget that the old Philosophy Tome materials drop from the new dungeons? And they seem to all drop 8 at a time. There's no reason anybody should be spending close to 800,000 seals on these things. Just wait until the prices for these things bottom out on the Market Board.

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Or people can loosen their coin purse and spend some gil... we are crafters after all and the rich elite ....

What annoyed me about the patch was we were promised bigger inventory and armour chest (im gonna find the post from after 2.1 where its mentioned just to make sure) and instead we get to buy (with real money) an extra retainer - thats the only let down for me so far to be honest.