SE - Default 3rd Retainer before Fees

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

Company Chest.

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Sure, let's all ask our FC to clear away a chest tab and give us exclusie access to it every time we have to take out a raptor hide from another character.

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Originally Posted by Delsai

Entitled much?

Seriously, why don't SE just pay you cash every time you log in?

This generation is doomed.

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It's not being entitled, it's about giving players the means to expand their own abilities and possibilities without charging them real money. Some games I know give you the means to do so, some of them are stupidly hard to accomplish or just so expensive that it's just almost impossible to get unless you scrape your way up slowly, but regardless, the option is there. The developers give you new items to look and go for, new items to craft but they also take into account that you'll need more space. So, they give you new craftable bags that has a bigger limit.

As some people say, they might as well charge us to raid, to get new crafting recipes and whatnot if they are going to charge us something that is going to affect the balance between people.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Yep you are correct! 815 is actually very generous of SE to the point that if any more space is needed for players I think it's only fair to charge a small fee for retainers

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Affiliating word "generous" with subscription based game makes me cry.

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Originally Posted by chocomaid

It's not being entitled, it's about giving players the means to expand their own abilities and possibilities without charging them real money. .

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You expanded your possibilities by paying a subscription - They already charge you real money. If $2 is that big of a deal, don't buy it, there's plenty who will and SE will succeed in making more money.

You...do remember SE is a business, right? If gamers didn't throw themselves at games like Farmville, pay for DLC and incompleted games and "early access" no company would see the profit.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

You expanded your possibilities by paying a subscription - They already charge you real money. If $2 is that big of a deal, don't buy it, there's plenty who will and SE will succeed in making more money.

You...do remember SE is a business, right? If gamers didn't throw themselves at games like Farmville, pay for DLC and incompleted games and "early access" no company would see the profit.

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You pay the subscription to play the game. Anything you can buy outside of the game should be purely cosmetic items that will not affect your ability or anyone else's for that mater. Anything that will affect gameplay and unfair-real-money advantages over one another is another thing. People should have an equal amount of opportunity with the base amount you have to pay.

By your logic and other people's as well, SE may as well charge for "optional" extra jobs and classes right? Oh wait, that will be included in the game sooner or later, who knows, will it be free?

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

You expanded your possibilities by paying a subscription - They already charge you real money. If $2 is that big of a deal, don't buy it, there's plenty who will and SE will succeed in making more money.

You...do remember SE is a business, right? If gamers didn't throw themselves at games like Farmville, pay for DLC and incompleted games and "early access" no company would see the profit.

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agreed. I don't know any other group of people that will gripe and moan over two dollars as much as gamers do. Paying a sub doesn't mean your entitled to everything. That's like saying you wanna walk into a car dealership and you wanna pay a base model price to get car that's fully loaded with all upgrades. paying for a meal/drink and always expecting the largest size. seriously, most everything you buy in life can be found in tiered packages, with add ons, upgrades, whatnot. but I guess many gamers are to entitled to understand that.

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Originally Posted by KupoNuts

Affiliating word "generous" with subscription based game makes me cry.

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Does it really matter if it's subbed or not? Everyone's sub is merely giving you access to their servers and play the contents within nothing more. The 815 slots they give you is something they wanted to do, but now that they feel they need to expand their storage in the game (people obviously kept asking for more space so they are giving it), they need to charge a little.

However, if these extra retainers is linked with the Venture system, I won't let that slide on a personal level ( unless they implement it in a way no advantage is gained.)

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Originally Posted by Starlord

However, if these extra retainers is linked with the Venture system, I won't let that slide on a personal level ( unless they implement it in a way no advantage is gained.)

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that's a fairly fair point. if extra retainers means extra auction slots/ventures, that may be a bit of an imbalance (however slight).
if its just extra storage though, that's pretty much a reasonable 2 dollar fee for something pretty harmless.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Just buy the retainer if you need it. It's as simple as that. We already get TWO for free.

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You make a good point. They should probably charge us for the new Coil turns as well, I mean, we already have 5 of them - right?

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Originally Posted by cearka

that's a fairly fair point. if extra retainers means extra auction slots/ventures, that may be a bit of an imbalance (however slight).
if its just extra storage though, that's pretty much a reasonable 2 dollar fee for something pretty harmless.

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I don't see how it could be just storage. But we will see.
Apparently it's ok for people to voice their disagreement and beg to change that 360 Day Reward SE was offering. But not this.