Honestly, let SE make as much money as they can.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Have you considered just forwarding your paycheck to the company?

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No, I don't buy/care for vanity stuff. Matter of fact I never did it nor will I do it here. However, there are others who will, more power to them. Why would you care where their money is going?

Don't make this personal, other people finance is none of your business.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

No, I don't buy/care for vanity stuff. Matter of fact I never did it nor will I do it here. However, there are others who will, more power to them. Why would you care where their money is going?

Don't make this personal, other people finance is none of your business.

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I whole heartedly agree with Neo and what he posted in OP. People are severely overreacting to this. Even if all that people fear does come to passl; there isn't really anything people can do to stop it. May as well just move along and keep playing the game.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

Why would you care where their money is going?

Don't make this personal, other people finance is none of your business.

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True, what other people do with their money isn't my business, but it does effect what SE believes they can get away with, which is my business.
I'm going to do my best to discourage major levels of cash shoppery. What they got now and their plans aren't too bad, but I'm keeping my eye open.

2 retainer, so much pay2win :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Gramul

What they got now and their plans aren't too bad, but I'm keeping my eye open.

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Pretty much sums a lot of things up; if they did deviate greatly put in items that remove lock outs in while keeping a paid model. I can see why people would be upset. However, until that time no big reason to worry. XD

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Originally Posted by RegnumMagik

2 retainer, so much pay2win :rolleyes:

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Lol i know right? Who knew you could send them off to beat twintania for you :D?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

True, what other people do with their money isn't my business, but it does effect what SE believes they can get away with, which is my business.
I'm going to do my best to discourage major levels of cash shoppery. What they got now and their plans aren't too bad, but I'm keeping my eye open.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvjIVSiOd-g

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Originally Posted by Gramul

True, what other people do with their money isn't my business, but it does effect what SE believes they can get away with, which is my business.
I'm going to do my best to discourage major levels of cash shoppery. What they got now and their plans aren't too bad, but I'm keeping my eye open.

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Good we agree on something. When they start selling something that does affect the game such as crafting mats then we burn the forums, until then it really does not matter :).

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

No, I don't buy/care for vanity stuff. Matter of fact I never did it nor will I do it here. However, there are others who will, more power to them. Why would you care where their money is going?

Don't make this personal, other people finance is none of your business.

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Because a vanity cash shop is a scam. SE already gives us "vanity" with events, new dungeon gear, and new crafting recipes. You're essentially telling them to lower the value of the subscription you're already paying because a vanity cash shop would be nothing more than SE taking out content they would normally give us in a update and charging people extra for it. People have some delusion that adding a vanity cash shop magically adds vanity items that they wouldn't already been getting in updates if they hadn't bent over to corporate greed.

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Originally Posted by Delsai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvjIVSiOd-g

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Not really. It's basic economics.
Honestly, I'm being cautious at worst.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

Good we agree on something. When they start selling something that does affect the game such as crafting mats then we burn the forums, until then it really does not matter :).

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Umm, they kind of do that with this. It would be like you can buy a pack of X materials each month, where x is how much 1 retainer can get max in that time.

It is also effecting crafters/gatherers/farmers, or anyone who puts up a lot of things on the market board.

Why I'm against things like these, is that they could make the game world so much more alive if they had these things in quests. Well, that and anything where you can buy things for your character with real world cash.