Guildleves Reform info up

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Of course they are, stop being optimistic.

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There's a difference between being blindly optimistic and realistic.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

Quite true. But you don't really think the 1.18 dungeons will be the only new content released for the rest of the game's existence, do you?

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No it won't be, but if they screw up party play in this update then we are going to be screwed out of party play for months until they release 1.19 or another patch to fix the fact that they screwed up party play. I kind of wish we could get some dev info on whether or not they will be announcing anything for party leveling and party play aside from dungeons which last 60 minutes and can only be done once every however many hours/days, because at this point they are making themselves, once again, look like they have no business developing an mmo, and have no idea what they are doing.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

considering he wrote it in the guild mark section...yeah mistranslation

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I'm not 100% convinced, do we have someone that can check the japanese post to see what it says there?

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Originally Posted by Req

No it won't be, but if they screw up party play in this update then we are going to be screwed out of party play for months until they release 1.19 or another patch to fix the fact that they screwed up party play. I kind of wish we could get some dev info on whether or not they will be announcing anything for party leveling and party play aside from dungeons which last 60 minutes and can only be done once every however many hours/days, because at this point they are making themselves, once again, look like they have no business developing an mmo, and have no idea what they are doing.

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You have the right of it, unfortunately. I believe the community voted for more frequent but smaller updates over infrequent large updates. Thus far what we've gotten is infrequent small updates.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

considering he wrote it in the guild mark section...yeah mistranslation

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It's talking about the distinction between Disciples of War/Magic and Disciples of the Hand, and Disciples of the Land.

It means that you can't complete a battle leve as a gatherer and expect to get an SP reward for your gathering class.

How would you complete a battle leve as a gathering class anyway?

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Originally Posted by Xellotath

How would you complete a battle leve as a gathering class anyway?

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Complete the leve

Change to DoW

Claim bonus SP.

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Originally Posted by Xellotath

How would you complete a battle leve as a gathering class anyway?

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Join a party

Be a miner while everyone else kills stuff

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Lol, you can't do either of those things as it exists currently (at least on the leves that grant mark rewards) so i'm not sure why he felt the need to clarify that you won't be able to do it after the patch, if that's what is meant.

also partial rewards probably means if you try to change your class at the end of the leve, you may get less of the reward, much like when they count your kills when you do a leve as a different class than when you are getting marks.

As for those saying nerfing group play, i dont know... from what they say this will probably have the opposite effect. lowering base SP gains and giving you SP on completion, taking into considertation factors like difficulty, time to complete, etc seems to be rewarding party play more than solo. It means that beating a quest faster gives more sp (group advantage) and on a higher difficulty (group advantage) and they are also taking out the 4 link limit (bigger group bonus)

sooo uhh..... what about this reform is supposed to help solo players again?