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Originally Posted by Xatsh

As much as I loved and miss the game. The direction SE took it just kills it for me. It is not the same game that I once played 40hrs a week for nearly 8yrs strait.

The games population is too low and they killed off the soul of the game. I would consider it only if they remove the last expansion and all abysea and rolled the servers back to 75 cap, obviously not going to happen.

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There is no way they would revert the game back to 2008, they had to make new content for people who still pay for the game, the game basically has gone through 3 eras now post 75 cap. Abyssea era (99 cap), Voidwatch/Neo salvage+nyzul Era (99+ era sidegrades to abyssea gear but generally better.), and now the Seekers (ivl 119 era).

I don't get why people think they should make 0 new content if they did that the game would die for sure. Because people want stuff to do in the game they pay for.

You would like FFXI now basically they going back and redoing all the old content for the level 99 cap. Reusing all the old fights, IE all the bcnm, all the ark angel fights, a lot of the old mission fights. Only thing is now they drop ilvl 109 or 119 gear, the number of items you need to upgrade your gear depends on if you did limbus or not and +1 your old gear if you did limbus or go back and do it now then you need to farm less papers from the bcnm. Access to fights is pretty grindy everyone in your party needs 20 merits to enter and there is 5 selectable difficulty levels for everything. You can play as much as you want but gearing out all your jobs takes quite a long time due to the fact you have to keep getting 20 merits everytime you want to do a fight.

If anything there is too many people because of the 3 instance per server limitation. There is still like 1300 people per server whenever I log on the game. If more then 3 groups are trying to do a bc fight be prepared to spam the bc to see who gets in first for over an hour. While some things are still a ??? and theres only 1 spawn if some guy is taking 30 min to try and solo whatever you be waiting, behemoth is pretty horrible for this because defending ring is still good.

For whatever reason for the last couple of patches the new expansion zones kind of been on pause as they went through and redid the rest of the old game for lv99+, they still in the process, they letting up upgrade dyansmis gear next, and abyssea gear last but that hasn't been announced. But the thing is everything takes 20 merits to get into the fight now which is too much for your average player.

Only thing that would be a deterrent to old players coming back is new gear is pretty expensive to upgrade. It costs about 80m to get your relic weapon up to ilvl 119 the current item level cap. Your AF 119 af gear will cost you about 5m per piece once you get the required drops from the BCNM and Ark Angel fights. There is an expensive 5m crafted item that is needed for all your 119 AF that takes a 106-110 crafter to make, could be cheaper if you have the craft or know someone but you can only have 1 craft in 11. Looking at about 25m in crafted mats per job to go along once you got your papers.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

There is no way they would revert the game back to 2008, they had to make new content for people who still pay for the game, the game basically has gone through 3 eras now post 75 cap.

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They wouldn't have to roll back all of the servers really, just provide a new server with none of the add-ons enabled. First gen EverQuest has actually done this to great success.


However, I personally wouldn't play a vanilla version of FFXI (I remember those days to well....), because it lacked so many features that should have been in the game from day-1. When they did get around to adding the "low level" features, it was three expansions and 6 years after release...

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Originally Posted by Tethra

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Server: Asura
Character: Morcheeba

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*sqints eyes* Cheebs? *blinks* That cat looks like a dude so I don't think you're the same Morcheeba from Quetz (before all the server merges), are you? aka. QCDN Cheebs.

IMHO square could experiment with ffxi like this.

Have a server dedicated to pre abbysea content with the following.
Level synq.
Hp teleportation as it is now. to the major cities.
Hp teleportation to the Crags.
Leave all the Fov books but remove GOV so people don't leech xp or spam this.
Make better drops to RELIC,AF,MYTHIC items related so people don't take full 2-8 years making one , but also don't make them drop like candy.
Leave some of the lv 90 mobs but remove the ones in low level questing (pre75)
Double the xp gained from mobs, so people don't take a full year getting to 75 and get bored killing colibri while meriting.
Remove all caps from content.
Let people transfer to that server(optional, and loose everything related to post abbysea)
ETC ETC.

The game is bleeding (not dying) but tbh the game is 11 years old, and all ideas has been used .
IMHO Square should make this server while they work on a FFXI-2.

The server will be a way to keep the subs or regain the subs that lost with abbysea.

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Originally Posted by Kittra

they have the option to play in windowed mode now so no more alt+tab accidents.

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That was hands down my biggest gripe about the game. The clunky menu UI was also annoying, but you eventually got used to it. Not being to alt-tab w/o a third-party program was horrible.

To those players who are saying they want to go back to the old FFXI, it appears you're in the minority:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...d-alone-server

You dont need someone to play FFXI with you, pretty much every mission in every expansion is soloable now, easily soloable.

For me This killed FFXI.

1.- Allowing the players lv 30 have access to abbysea. This destroyed the entire party system.

2.- The Abbysea "Atmas". With only the crour buffs, was enough for have been. Challenging battles in abbysea.

3.- The adoulin expansion was aimed for "ULTRA HARDCORES". Yes you will fail if you make content for only "One type of public".

If you make content only for casuals your game become really boring right ARR?

If you make Content for only hardcores your game become really tedious and boring Right FFXI Seekers of adoulin?

You need have content balanced for 8 man - 12 man - 18 man. Variation is the key.

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

To those players who are saying they want to go back to the old FFXI, it appears you're in the minority:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...d-alone-server

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Asking those that play the game, won't give you accurate numbers. They are obviously like it as it is now. Maybe if that question had been asked 2 years ago on that forum, then it might have been more accurate.

Also, it doesn't have to be the majority. If it was only 1 server to it, they wouldn't have to be 100k to make that 1 server seeing a average 3.3k online users as it was before.

EDIT: If I where to go back, it would have to be before the Ranger nerf. That one screwed up a job and woodworking.

i am ^^ playing ffxi now

you know only Monday for ffxiv

and all the rest ........for xi and lol <--- ^^