'Raids', really?

Squeaky bum time.

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Please... I'm hearing all this WOW bashing but if the graphics were like 14 I know some of you would be all over it. So hate all you want but the fact still stands millions of subs over 30k subs and I'm pretty sure I'm being generous.

The most complaints I hear from linkshell members is "but the graphics look too cartoony" yet a lot of them never even played WOW. Ignorance is what annoys me about people. If you're going to bash something don't bullsh*t about playing a game you've never played.

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It's blatant misinformation and hating on something they don't understand and have never touched.

"AH has bidding! Bidding sucks!" -- Less than 1% of transactions on the AH are bid-only. AH is almost exclusively buyout.
"WOW is easy!" -- Leveling is easy, normal dungeons are slightly less so, heroics are average, raids are moderately difficult, heroic raids are balls-to-the-wall hard.
"WOW doesn't promote group play!" -- WOW promotes group play from level ~12 onward. It's exclusively group play at end game.
"WOW is cartoony!" -- WOW has an exaggerated art style, but that doesn't make it cartoony. It has a very dark theme.
"WOW's quests are all boring!" -- Hasn't touched WOW questing since 2005. WOW has more quest variety than any MMO.

I can go on with this almost forever.

Then please do but you'd be preaching to the choir. :D

Weren't you just bashing WOW? Don't use sarcasm on the Internet! It doesn't go over well.

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Precisely! I am glad that at least one person understand what I'm talking about.
Yes, exactly, do we really want another copy-paste mmo that will fizzle in a year or two? Or something fantastic like XI that will last for many years.

I am hoping that the term used is to just get across the point that that's what it is, a dungeon crawl with a boss, and that for future instalments including those that are storyline related will have a better title that can be used in conversation and not all content will be summed up by one four letter word.

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FF strength was story, epic battles, great music, amazing atmosphere. I really do hope it doesnt get watered down to
one of the many mmo clones (one doesnt need to mention wow anymore since every current mmo is a clone of one another). And if they want, they will fail even harder then other companies who are working for the western market only.
These companies don't manage to get the wow playerbase, since they stick to wow. The only thing you get is a handful of the people who seen all in wow, but even then they are likely to return to wow.

FFXIV needs to find a niche to be profitable. A niche doesnt mean they won'T get enough subscribers, i think it will be the opposite even. They are not fast enough compete with the big players on the market. So they have to be inventive and smart and focus on other things. And focus on content that has high replay value and doesnt get outdated within a day or two. IF the game gets like most other mmos there is no point in playing it, since other mmos offer a shit load of content compared to what ffxiv will ever be able to cover... So SE, better be inventive, you won't stand a chance catering to the
saturated wow market imho.

On the subject of finding a niche and going off topic for a bit I completely agree. I think that what they need to do is go back to their final fantasy roots, look at what was really successful in the franchises and introduce popular characters/images/etc. It's what everyone's talking about, and they will eventually. Chocobos will eventually resurface. Cid is more likely than not to be in there somewhere. We already have moogles.

Their biggest strength is in their storytelling and they just have soooo much free reign now, the world needs more flavour and it's great because they have an opportunity to break out of the strict high-fantasy western setting and do something really great. These dungeons are a really great start, by introducing difficult content. That's a step in the right direction for sure.

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Weren't you just bashing WOW? Don't use sarcasm on the Internet! It doesn't go over well.

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I'm sorry! Teach me your ways?

Whats in a name? They could call it some made up name like a Stip-tin-pop and it doesn't change the nature of the thing

Truth be told, complaining over the name of something shows you have a propensity to complain and voice displeasure....

Be happy, they could have called them Sissy-runs... Or fussy-panseons
In Englad they call cigarettes "Fags"
Shouldn't you go find a Phillip Morris message board to complain on?

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Whats in a name? They could call it some made up name like a Stip-tin-pop and it doesn't change the nature of the thing

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Stigma. All a matter of taste I'm afraid.

Edit: I could! But I have no idea what that is, and I have no interest in feeding the trolls. In any case, we're all entitled to our own opinions, and just because we have the right to be anonymous sarcastic piss ants doesn't mean we ought to be.

And in case that wasn't clear enough, yes I was referring to you. :3

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Stigma. All a matter of taste I'm afraid.

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As long as they are fun, I don't care what they call them...