MMO Social Epidemic

Well my view on the MMO genre is that you play with other people, not that every party is full of conversation. I am social on my FC chat and I don't ignore people when they ask me questions (at least not intentionally) or if we have a slow point in the dungeon like if someone DC's then I'll chat. Other than that I'm too busy to type anything while actually fighting. My rotation will slow down and I will do less dmg if I start chatting, I might also be slower to sleep or avoid AoE because I'm busy talking instead of concentrating on the fight.

I honestly don't see why people get so offended, this is a fast paced game and people are usually just concentrating or have nothing meaningful to say, nobody is being rude to anyone, just concentrating on their game is all.

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Originally Posted by Hocchi

I don't talk to people in real life, why would I in a game.
Silent dungeon runs go the fastest.

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And they're boring as hell.

I've played other games (mostly free to play mmos) and the amount of interaction, both good and bad, is quite a bit higher then FF14. I honestly think it is because of how the game was and is being designed. From the beginning you start off solo but that isn't abnormal when starting out in other mmorpgs, what is different was the cross server dungeons. I hope party finder actually starts becoming more common, it really should have been part of the game in the beginning.

Funny thing about FF14 is it feels a lot like real life. It's like that feeling when you walk down the street and everyone tries to ignore everyone they don't know, almost like everyone is afraid of everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Artemiz

I honestly don't see why people get so offended, this is a fast paced game and people are usually just concentrating or have nothing meaningful to say, nobody is being rude to anyone, just concentrating on their game is all.

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Yeah I guess this is the crux of it, the thing is FF11 was alot slower pace and there was ample opportunity to chat in between pulls, waiting for replacement party members to arrive , after being forced to zone after a mob train etc.

I don't talk much in dungeon for this reason, I usually have alot to do and don't want to miss something.

FC chat? I dunno, there was by far alot more interaction in 1.0, used to average 3-4 tells when logging in and usually had some type of convo going in chat as well as people talking in vent/mumble.

Noticed a significant decline after 2.0 but that may be due to changing servers and only knowing a handful of people.

I always try to say "hi" at the very least during any DF Run. And afterwards, providing the people don't immediately run to the exit, I target everyone individually and /bow as a way of saying thanks for the run.
Sadly, not many people tend to stick around :(

I'm still waiting to see "this is the entitled generation" thread to pop. It happens on every MMO, every year and it's always the generation after the OP that's the entitled one, not his, of course.

My FC chat is pretty active, and if it isn't then we are on Team Speak. I chat in a PuG if people need help, or if they say hello. Otherwise I stay quiet because I don't see a need to talk. I don't think that makes me or them anti-social.

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Originally Posted by Moontide

I quit Guild Wars 2 altogether after the incident. I can't imagine how antisocial some people can be in a game that's supposed to be a social experience. Nothing that bad happened on FFXIV yet for me though. Then again I haven't touched lv.50 content just yet.

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Updating. Finished Praetorium for the first time on my other character. This'll be my one and only QQ I ever post on these forums and a bit beside the point. Sorry for that. Either way it was as I feared. Impatience, belittling, not letting people watch cutscenes lest they'd miss the fights. And I was specifically begging them to wait for me since the beginning. It was a nice conclusion to a PvE story turned seriously sour during the last few meters thanks to the intolerant party members. Community is what makes or breaks an MMO for me. If this was indicative of how the endgame community is, it's time for me to look for a new MMO.

Moontide, same thing happened to my hubby and me in Prae. Some members were fantastic while others rushed ahead and griped the entire run. It was rather discouraging. My experience in AK was even worse.

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Originally Posted by Moontide

Updating. Finished Praetorium for the first time on my other character. This'll be my one and only QQ I ever post on these forums and a bit beside the point. Sorry for that. Either way it was as I feared. Impatience, belittling, not letting people watch cutscenes lest they'd miss the fights. And I was specifically begging them to wait for me since the beginning. It was a nice conclusion to a PvE story turned seriously sour during the last few meters thanks to the intolerant party members. Community is what makes or breaks an MMO for me. If this was indicative of how the endgame community is, it's time for me to look for a new MMO.

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I have a feeling you'll be disappointed wherever you go.
I haven't found an overall worthwhile community in a good online game since PSO ep 1&2. The other online PS games actually had decent communities as well (compared to other games, at least), but the games were rubbish, so that couldn't hold the experience up on its own.

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

I have a feeling you'll be disappointed wherever you go.
I haven't found an overall worthwhile community in a good online game since PSO ep 1&2. The other online PS games actually had decent communities as well (compared to other games, at least), but the games were rubbish, so that couldn't hold the experience up on its own.

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Out of the half a dozen or so MMOs that I've played only the two I've mentioned now have had such problems though. I know such people exist in all MMOs probably, but the bits where you're forced to deal with that community are the hurtful ones. I can't think of too many similar situations where a blue-eyed first timer gets trampled so a few people in the party can get to their next piece of high level gear 3 % faster.

Some tools or even restraints to encourage friendlier behavior seem like something FFXIV could use as a whole.