Wat you miss when abandoning leves

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Originally Posted by RathSkybreaker

Yeah because grinding is half as efficient as leves as far as level 1-45 go.. I haven't gotten good SP from grinding since coblyns, they ended that parade QUICK, all we have left if you ask me is raptors.

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there's plenty of mobs that give you good sp in parties at each level. sure, there's not as many as i'd like since i do enjoy a good few hour grind as well, but they do have some. more needs to be added though.

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Originally Posted by RathSkybreaker

Yeah because grinding is half as efficient as leves as far as level 1-45 go.. I haven't gotten good SP from grinding since coblyns, they ended that parade QUICK, all we have left if you ask me is raptors.

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leves dont work if you want to get to 50 fast though

you only get 3 per camp per 36 hours

a smart person does leves AND grinds, not just 1 or the other

its not about whats better, in the end, leves can be better by miles, but you can only do so many per cycle, whereas you can ALWAYS grind anytime you want, for any length of time

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

why dont you read the rest of what iw rote

and the stuff i wrote before it

yuo are raging over 10k or so extra sp every 2 days

and no one is forcing you to like ir, or do it, just stop trying to force us to see it your way

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First, I'm not raging over anything. I don't particular care what you have to say enough to cause me emotional distress/discomfort. Secondly, the fail leave system doesn't cause me any kind of anger either. I see it as a black mark in the game which caters to lazy people by rewarding them more for failure then by playing the game with the intent to win. So stop trying to superimpose my "feelings" on the issue.

As I have mentioned before, no amount of ornamental words or nonsensical justification in the vein of "thats how I playz da game!" changes the fact -- it is reward for failure. The very foundation of that idea is ass-backwards. You're right, no one forces me to play any particular way but the fundamentals of hardwork = success should be a constant in ANYTHING. Keep trying to find justification if it flips your skirt though in the bizarre loophole and exploit the hell of it.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

leves dont work if you want to get to 50 fast though

you only get 3 per camp per 36 hours

a smart person does leves AND grinds, not just 1 or the other

its not about whats better, in the end, leves can be better by miles, but you can only do so many per cycle, whereas you can ALWAYS grind anytime you want, for any length of time

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lol people I know are on there 4th 50's from strictly leves, rare raptor parties.. They have an optimized route for canceling all the leves and just teleporting all over and just rotate the anima duty.. works wonders I've seen them hit over 100k+ sp in a night.. which is wdf retarded.. and again.. grinding isn't really efficient until 45+ due to the lack of monster groups. I mean coblyns USED to be great .. again. yeah grinding would be fine if we had more mobs, and EXP chains at-least. Usually on off time they just craft though ;o

just another thing to throw out there.. whats the point of getting to 50 atm right now? To kill buffalo? DoDore? Mosshorn? Gob? Uraeus? lol childsplay, I could go play pikmin and have a harder time beating the first level then those damn things.. I encourage people to take the slow roll to 50, because if rushed you will only get disappointed.. I hope that changes come June -fingers crossed- Though I'll be in germany come next thursday so I won't see it till July T_T

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Originally Posted by RathSkybreaker

lol people I know are on there 4th 50's from strictly leves, rare raptor parties.. They have an optimized route for canceling all the leves and just teleporting all over and just rotate the anima duty.. works wonders I've seen them hit over 100k+ sp in a night.. which is wdf retarded.. and again.. grinding isn't really efficient until 45+ due to the lack of monster groups. I mean coblyns USED to be great .. again. yeah grinding would be fine if we had more mobs, and EXP chains at-least. Usually on off time they just craft though ;o

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if you like to grind here is a nice little post by someone else on the forums the other day. i like to grind also so copied it for my use. i am sorry for whoever posted it as i cannot remember to give you credit for it as it is a nice list. i tested a few of them, but not all as i do not have classes in all ranges to test.

Rank 18-25: Puks in Nanawa mines north of Aetherite on bridges (~21-25 k sp/hr depending on rank)
Rank 26-28: Ants in lower floor of copperbell (~18-22 k/sp)
Rank 28-35: Camp Nine Ives off efts and bird near the Circle camps (~24-27 k sp/hr)
Rank 35-42: Camp Treespeak Circle off Efts, lemurs, and Ix'tal (~23-26 k sp/hr)
Rank 42-50: Baulder Downs Raptors (~25-30 k sp/hr)
Rank 45-50: Sorell Haven off efts, birds, and traps (~24-27 k sp/hr)
Rank 47-50: East of uldah off peiste, drakes, and eyes (drakes hit very hard though) (~18-22 k sp/hr)

edit: i believe this was based off a group of 3-4 although i cannot remember for sure. this is what i mean by i would like to see more variation of mobs by each level, but they do have some.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

if you like to grind here is a nice little post by someone else on the forums the other day. i like to grind also so copied it for my use. i am sorry for whoever posted it as i cannot remember to give you credit for it as it is a nice list. i tested a few of them, but not all as i do not have classes in all ranges to test.

Rank 18-25: Puks in Nanawa mines north of Aetherite on bridges (~21-25 k sp/hr depending on rank)
Rank 26-28: Ants in lower floor of copperbell (~18-22 k/sp)
Rank 28-35: Camp Nine Ives off efts and bird near the Circle camps (~24-27 k sp/hr)
Rank 35-42: Camp Treespeak Circle off Efts, lemurs, and Ix'tal (~23-26 k sp/hr)
Rank 42-50: Baulder Downs Raptors (~25-30 k sp/hr)
Rank 45-50: Sorell Haven off efts, birds, and traps (~24-27 k sp/hr)
Rank 47-50: East of uldah off peiste, drakes, and eyes (drakes hit very hard though) (~18-22 k sp/hr)

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Thats really good, sad to see 40~% are 40+ though.. maybe they think lowbies like to play the solo game? idk... we will see right?

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Originally Posted by Takelow

Yeah, in my point of view, you are wrong. You miss satisfaction to complete the leves, you miss variety since you repeat the three same leves indefinitely, and you miss the essence of the game "to be an adventurer that help the world where he lives".

Btw, yes, you miss Faction points.... The only way to unlock the most interesting quests of the game, imho, i mean Faction leves.

Just my opinion ;)

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I agree, and hopefully they will address this, I think by adding SP bonus' for completing leves would big a good step in that direction.

Adding this they could then increase the popularity of less popular leves, and add further bonuses for linking them as well.

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Originally Posted by RathSkybreaker

Thats really good, sad to see 40~% are 40+ though.. maybe they think lowbies like to play the solo game? idk... we will see right?

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not sure there....i really wish they did have more variation of mobs to grind on for groups and solo for when the groups are not available. sure solo shouldn't be as good of sp as groups, but should be a fall back when you have no party to group with.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

not sure there....i really wish they did have more variation of mobs to grind on for groups and solo for when the groups are not available. sure solo shouldn't be as good of sp as groups, but should be a fall back when you have no party to group with.

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there are many more spots

but those are the ones people use, if even that is all it really is