Reply to: Bayohne;171719

Square went with their ideas and vision to make this game, and it has failed pretty drastically. If anything they need to sort of do a brain trust on what their player community actually wants. If anything they should be collaborating with the players more, at the very least having official polls.

Then actually going into detail of what they are changing and getting input as opposed to being vague and saying "were going to change the battle system, it will have auto attack".. but actually laying out their ideas and letting us pick their brains before they waste time and effort on something that most people might not like. (granted "the forums are left with "fanboys" and anyone who says anything bad about SE is a "troll".. so its a captive audience)

With how slow these changes are coming, if they completely miss as i imagine they will at some point its a ton of wasted effort.

I mean hell... they made a game for "casual gamers" with the intent that people would still play ffxi as they could get what they wanted done in ffxiv a few hours a week. This alone shows they don't know their own player base. They are just trying to capture some of the generic MMO'ers as opposed to sticking to their guns and what the final fantasy franchise has always been. Its sort of sad if you ask me. The first people who are going to play a final fantasy MMO are people familiar with the franchise. We don't want a hello kitty island adventure, we want a challenging and rewarding experience..

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Originally Posted by Kam

beyond the 20,000 viewed "add male mitha/famale galka", and the "dont tie weapons to jobs/classes" thread. what would you view as most productive?

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i think the main reason the forums are not very productive is the lack of answers we are getting/lack of coommunity reps- or the lack of information the reps are getting. If we had faster and clearer answers no such stupid threads about jumping were made (well not stupid rather... way too long).

Another thing is... when the forum started, i read some amazing posts with great ideas, so elaborate and thought through, and they didnt get an answer from the reps, or anything... The good posts got rarer and rarer. If the people with good suggestions don't get answers at all well... no wonder people use the forums for mainly bitching, complaining to express their disappointment. A lot were called trolls the very moment they had some ideas or changes and got replies like "go back to wow, or if you don't like this game don't play it".

The forum now is anarchy. No leading, and no direction. Thats just how humans are... take away the police, the direction, the control and the government and they kill eachother lol