Please nerf summoner in PvP.

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Originally Posted by Millimidget

And that's not enough?

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So I'm supposed to be happy that there is no way for me to deal with a double summoner comp? That there is a class that is flat out broken in PvP? No, it's not enough for me to be able to deal with black mages easily and have no way to deal with summoners. Summoner cripples me against their entire team because I am slowed to such a ridiculous extent that I cannot catch anyone even with my sprint, and if I do catch someone, well... I just get bound. They can all sit back and destroy me from range while I struggle to get to someone to even attack them. So no, I'm not happy with that.

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What good is one ilm punch on a summoner when I can't catch them because of the infinite slows and binds in a double summoner comp? As I said, even if I kill one in a double SMN comp, they will keep rezzing, the main problem for me is even getting close enough to attack the summoners, since they can keep slowing and binding me.

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Many classes can be OP in multiples, which is one of the reasons the new penalty to limit rbeak generation for having multiples of the same class in any duty was put in. It doesn't mean the job is broken. 1 summoner dies easily if focused and wreck's the other team's DPS.

You're complaining about a very specific team comp, that doesn't make the class OP. as I said, it's the most defenseless class in the game. While it does have a lot going for it, it also has glaring weaknesses.

Just shut down the summoner quickly and they won't hurt you at all. Once a melee is on me I'm pretty much done unless I have Equanmity ready. Again, just because *you* lost to a certain team comp doesn't mean the job is overpowered.

Summoner isn't any more 'flat out broken" than BLM or BRD or any other class.

Summoner is weak in PvP we have low defense and no defensive abilities so as soon as a Melee or Tank gets on top of me I'm dead because I can't do anything if I'm rushed. If any class needs to be nerves in PvP it's Melees and Tanks. Tanks have stun lock and all a else's and Bards attacks interrupt casting. Just cause a comp of 2 Summoners are op in PvP doesn't mean the class should be nerfed because 2 Bards in pvp are op 2 Black mages are op and 2 Melee comps are op.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Summoner isn't any more 'flat out broken" than BLM or BRD or any other class.

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It needs tone downs. Any true PvPer can identify the class is beyond normality compared to other classes. Melee can and should be kited. Also what are your team mates doing if they allow a MNK to just beat on you? Monk is the easiest class to kite in the game as it stands. A SMN has roots, bind, pets, rezzes, MS and burst. It needs a tone down. It's far too much piled onto one class; let alone, a DPS one.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

Summoner is weak in PvP...

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No.

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Originally Posted by Phaylis

I think I would be more worried about 2 BLM. Swiftcast freeze, sleep, double flare...everyone dead.

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Pretty much this. Running double black mage/whm/warrior and we completely wreck every summoner comp we have vsed (108:1 w/l). People say if you stick on blm you can interupt them but if your whm is decent they will give you an opening and then you can land unhealable damage within a few globals. Swiftcast flares are critting for 2.5k and fire 3 procs upwards of 2k. It also helps we all have the 20s aura mastery (rank 3 uninterruptible cast skill)

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"I am a summoner and I'm going to pretend like I don't have insane utility alongside my high damage. Pls don't nerf me I want more free wins!"

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Originally Posted by Eissels

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"I am a summoner and I'm going to pretend like I don't have insane utility alongside my high damage. Pls don't nerf me I want more free wins!"

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This guy gets it.

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Originally Posted by staticshock

Pretty much this. Running double black mage/whm/warrior and we completely wreck every summoner comp we have vsed (108:1 w/l). People say if you stick on blm you can interupt them but if your whm is decent they will give you an opening and then you can land unhealable damage within a few globals. Swiftcast flares are critting for 2.5k and fire 3 procs upwards of 2k. It also helps we all have the 20s aura mastery (rank 3 uninterruptible cast skill)

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Yeah casters are not totally broken and don't need nerf.. add a sweet bubble in there with 100 potency cure... i can already smell the burn meat.

Here we go, wow all over again.... Asking for a re-balance on a class because of PVP.

If they can't keep re-balance changes separate between pvp and pve I say screw pvp.

I'm not saying they are not OP in PVP, and I'm not siding here. I just don't want to see stuff suffer in PVE because of PVP changes. We already had issues on turn 4 and had to adjust our strategy from the BRD nerfs as we have a 2 brd comp. I'm not syaing that's because of PVP, but it delivers a point. It would suck to have issues doing something you've had on farm for months because they made a change to a class to balance PVP.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Here we go, wow all over again.... Asking for a re-balance on a class because of PVP.

If they can't keep re-balance changes separate between pvp and pve I say screw pvp.

I'm not saying they are not OP in PVP, and I'm not siding here. I just don't want to see stuff suffer in PVE because of PVP changes. We already had issues on turn 4 and had to adjust our strategy from the BRD nerfs as we have a 2 brd comp. I'm not syaing that's because of PVP, but it delivers a point. It would suck to have issues doing something you've had on farm for months because they made a change to a class to balance PVP.

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Obviously the changes we're asking is only for pvp. Pve is fine as it is, there is no reason they can't change skills for pvp.