GOOD JOB YOSHI P!

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Originally Posted by Reslin

I don't have the time. Time does not equate to challenge.

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If you don't have the time, then why are you even playing an MMORPG since MMORPG's = Time to gain things. If you lack the time, then you need to stay away from Online RPG's, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Reslin

I don't have the time. Time does not equate to challenge.

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So you want to play less and put in less effort then someone who plays more and get the same rewards?

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Originally Posted by Nica

Thats like saying theoretically everyone can make as much money as bill gates, therefore the cheapest house in the US should cost $20 million USD.

What you can't seem to grasp is that while the opportunity to do so is here, only a few of us can ever actually do it, because it is physically impossible for everyone to do so in the system.

It'd be like having an economy with nothing but CEOs, it won't work.

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Not impossible in a virtual world where everyone has access to the same resources. There are ppl in my fc donating millions to the housing others who don't play as often donate what they can. its collaboration that's all. the close mindedness of the population is disgusting really. everyone can obtain a plot the only question is the time and energy they are willing to put in to do so. Hence the challenge.

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Originally Posted by Tazo

I wouldn't phrase it like OP but I agree that the prices are just fine. Prices are going down over time. You don't need the house now, you want it now, and when you can finally afford it, it will be available. The small FCs that are like husband/wife or BF/GF and friends that made an FC primarily to get a house should rethink about what game they are playing.....might wanna switch to Sims or something.

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You know something, I just love these asinine posts like this. I love how people forget that the 'Casuals' that would enjoy housing and its like are ilk majority compared to the 'Hardcores' and are also the ones that SE is making the majority of their money from. I mean lets be honest, this game has no real innovations going for it, its raiding, if you can call 8 mans really raiding, are a joke, its leveling was screwed up till 2.1 once you level your first class to 50 and maybe bit of a second one, making you rely on mindless fate grinding for best xp per hour; and the crafting while a breath of fresh air compared to most mmos has been purposely made pretty useless outside of consumables as of late now that housing has ridiculous pricing which in turn neuters the furniture market before it even gets to stand on its own two legs. So tell me, why would you want to turn away players whose subs could be used to further develop content?

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Originally Posted by Aruseth

Time does equate to challenge. Since you have less time than me its more of a challenge to get what your after. if you want more stuff in the game faster then you have to decide if you want to play more or not. but it is a challenge for you if it wasn't ppl wouldn't be so butthurt over the prices.

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I think this kind of proves my theory about the defenders of these prices. If you equate time to difficulty it speaks volumes about your ability to actually perform difficult tasks.

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Originally Posted by Osirus

If you don't have the time, then why are you even playing an MMORPG since MMORPG's = Time to gain things. If you lack the time, then you need to stay away from Online RPG's, IMO.

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I play mmorpgs to enjoy challenging content with groups of people. Such as dungeons, pvp, and even raids. The time required to achieve something should be the time it takes to improve yourself and clearing the content at hand. In short, the only gateway should be the task of finding out how to defeat the adversary at hand. Not endless timesinks. If you haven't noticed mmorpgs are moving away from time sinks while focusing on creating difficult encounters. I don't mind if a boss takes 4 months to figure out how to defeat. I do mind if I have to grind a certain mob 16 hours a day every day just to be able to challenge said boss. Time does not equal difficulty.

Basically what I'm saying is.. I want something that is actually challenging. Not trivial tasks that just take up a lot of your time until you can accomplish it. I think you should focus on farmville and leave online rpgs to those of us who want to try our hand at a real challenge. I heard it takes awhile to get far on it. Might be right up your ally. ;)

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Originally Posted by Aruseth

if its not a challenge then do it. Since its sooooo easy. challenge doesn't always mean kill something hard. sometimes focus can be a challenge just look at all the ppl that fail at dodging titan or twin and other abilities.

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Repeating the same boring easy task 50 million times doesn't make it challenging, it makes it tedious. Its why we build robots. If you get satisfaction out of tedium, more power to yah.

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Originally Posted by Reslin

I think this kind of proves my theory about the defenders of these prices. If you equate time to difficulty it speaks volumes about your ability to actually perform difficult tasks.

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I am a perfectly good player I also enjoy farming fishing crafting as well as all combat aspects of the game. I was once like you and only deviled in the combat portion of games till I woke up and realized the importance of having a craft to fill my wallet.

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Originally Posted by Aruseth

Not impossible in a virtual world where everyone has access to the same resources.

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please go back and take that remedial macro econ 101, your professor is crying.

buyers on the market aren't npcs, they are actual players, you are not generating money when selling on the market, and in such a small system where there is little real demand for goods being traded on the market, it will not be pretty when you drop a huge deflationary force on it.

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Originally Posted by Velev

Let's all pay a monthly fee for a game where we are put on the hamster wheel...

*let's keep running i think we are getting closer to the carrot!!!*

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I think at the end of the day, this is the real underlying reason for why everyone is mad. It's natural for an ongoing MMO to want to draw out its customers paying subscription fees for as long as it can... but usually it isn't this blatantly obvious. All these limits and delays in the game are shattering the illusion. Now it's clear that SE wants you to plunk down at least 3 more months of money to them before you have a hope of housing.

As some others have stated, it would've been smarter to make the land more affordable and to instead make the housing itself and the furniture more of a focus for gil sinks. That way you'd actually have a market for people making/buying furnishings and/or buildsing structures because so many more people would actually have housing to put them in.

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Originally Posted by Aruseth

Time does equate to challenge. Since you have less time than me its more of a challenge to get what your after. if you want more stuff in the game faster then you have to decide if you want to play more or not. but it is a challenge for you if it wasn't ppl wouldn't be so butthurt over the prices.

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You just explained how because you have the time it is LESS challenging for you yet here you are claiming this is great content because it is so challenging for you. I bet your not willing to play less and try to accomplish the same money making feat to make it more challenging for yourself. You arent actually looking for a challenge but something exclusive based on the fact that you have a surplus of an external resources (time) compared to the majority of the player base and want to delude yourself into thinking its some sort of "skill".