Players will be able to earn 20k gil per day

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Originally Posted by KraggyKor

Because that's the BEST we can hope for, price-wise.

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*grabs KraggyKor and backhands across his face*

THERE IS NO HOPE!

*hugz KraggyKor, beings to cry*

People will get over it.

Or they'll quit.

Either way, FFXIV will be just fine with or without them.

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Originally Posted by Sayura_

Yes I do want to work for my house. I want to buy a small plot of land for cheap, build upon it, use my crafting/gathering skills to fix it up, EXPAND IT, decorate it, etc.

What I don't want to do is grind for millions upon millions upon millions of gil to buy a premade house. Sounds fun, nope.

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Don't expect to buy the biggest house, then it'll be fun.

I'm not sure what market land people are living in or maybe their servers are just better better priced, but it's sure as heck hard to find a niche anymore that someone hasn't price-burned to heck.

Most everyone either has at least 1 crafting or gathering class at 50. For me, it's Botanist. I used to use it for Flax sales. Well, the prices simply aren't what they used to be. Most food ingredients are 30gil or less a piece and logs are variable, but 50 gil or less. I used to make a reasonable amount of money on Grade 4 Carbonized Matter and Clusters but all of them are around ~200-300 gil now. If I were to put anything substantial from gathering attempts on the board, the market would likely be undercut several times. Hell, even crystal prices have dropped to shard prices. I used to be able to make 70-100gil on those, but I'm afraid it's just not so anymore. And you had better believe when I do find a niche...100 people have jumped on it and undercut is several times by the next day.

The point is: the marketplace is likely to get WORSE because instead of dropping money on housing materials, people will be trying to save as much money to just buy the freaking land first.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

People will get over it.

Or they'll quit.

Either way, FFXIV will be just fine with or without them.

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the mentality of Bioware/SoE before shit blew up in their face.

Or, for that matter, SE in 1.0

Remind me, where is Tanaka again?

just do a "spiritbond-evening guild event"

with 3-4 hours timeeffort you can easy make about 1 mio gil per person participating
that makes 8 mio gil per evening, if only 8 ppl participate
crafter materia are still expensive and will raise in price when lots of more ppl want to get crafter 50 with 2.1

and there are still many other ways to earn tons of money

sell primae kills, or just kill them for crafting ingredients and sell those
people are just too lazy to use their brains and prefer to cry about nothing >_>

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Originally Posted by Nica

Remind me, where is Tanaka again?

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He wasn't fired, if that's what you're getting at.

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Originally Posted by Ashgarth

Let's see, every player can make 20k gil no matter where they play.

Why the hell is a small house worth 20m instead of 4m in my server then?

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Because they made the mistake of assuming that all players on legacy servers (where more gil is in circulation due to 1.0 characters) are legacy players.

They completely botched it on this; they assumed, and now people that haven't been involved since 1.0 and don't have mils of gil, are going to be shut out of housing.

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Originally Posted by KraggyKor

Yup, a WOW-like daily grind is now SE's business model for FFXIV.

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and if it keeps up along with the nerfing an ability for the sake of pvp then I am done.

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Originally Posted by Ricky

So all we have to do is take 100% of our FC members' gil for 3 months and we can have a house!

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Gotta love slavery.