Summoner got destroyed this patch

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

I seem to be the only one that likes getting bliz2 on my smn.Losing thnder sucks thats for sure,but bliz2 adds some nice options and some aoe dmg for speedruns after spreading bane

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Yes, because getting a 20 potency upgrade(over Tri Disaster) is so worth losing ~10% ST DPS, and x% DPs on 2-4 targets.

It adds nothing.

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

I didnt say in any place that getting bliz2 was worth losing thunder.In fact i said losing thunder sucks.I just mentioned that i liked the bliz2.wow...posters these days need to proofread

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When you say "I like B2," it's coming at the cost of Thunder. Your whole post downplayed how much of a loss Thunder was, and thinking B2 added anything.

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

Keep thinking it dosent add "nothing" its goin to be a great tool for pvp also.and even if you dont play pvp.its alredy something,thus,not nothing.
Keep raging.ill just adapt and have fun at the game ^^

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Yes, such a great tool for PvP.
It's not like it's an inferior tri-disaster for that purpose or anything.

Keep on diggin' that hole.

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

gonna do 1 edit.cause someone is adding cute edits to their post in reply to mine:
An aoe centralized on yourself bind isnt useful for pvp? think clearly.clear the rage in yor mind..analize it..deeply/In many games such skills are the greatest pvp tools for casters.You think im diggin myself a hole.you first said its nothing,i said something,you were proved wrong on that point.whos diggng themselves a hole.Last post ima gonna do today.keep adding edits

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You do know that Tri-Disaster is AoE, and has a longer Binding effect, right?

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Originally Posted by Mitternacht

In those games the player-based area of effect root is typically instant cast, wider in radius, and doesn't 100% break on the first pip of damage. Good luck casting it in PVP when someone is beating on you without Surecast or Swiftcast. Hell, if I was playing melee dps I'd hope you waste them on Blizz 2. It'll make stopping anything actually important you could cast easier.

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This. You know all casts will be interrupted, EVERY TIME, from any direct damage, right?

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Originally Posted by Sylari

The virus nerf hits BLM/WHM with their inferior cross class Virus harder than it does the arcanists.

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As a BLM, I'm basically going to have to stop using it in 8 man content, as it'd devalue the SMN and SCH's Virus's.

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Originally Posted by Kevee

Yes, because getting a 20 potency upgrade(over Tri Disaster) is so worth losing ~10% ST DPS, and x% DPs on 2-4 targets.

It adds nothing.

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I didnt say in any place that getting bliz2 was worth losing thunder.In fact i said losing thunder sucks.I just mentioned that i liked the bliz2.wow...posters these days need to proofread

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

I didnt say in any place that getting bliz2 was worth losing thunder.In fact i said losing thunder sucks.I just mentioned that i liked the bliz2.wow...posters these days need to proofread

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The fact remains it really doesn't add anything.

Keep thinking it dosent add "nothing" its goin to be a great tool for pvp also.and even if you dont play pvp.its alredy something,thus,not nothing.
Keep raging.ill just adapt and have fun at the game ^^

gonna do 1 edit.cause someone is adding cute edits to their post in reply to mine:
An aoe centralized on yourself bind isnt useful for pvp? think clearly.clear the rage in yor mind..analize it..deeply/In many games such skills are the greatest pvp tools for casters.You think im diggin myself a hole.you first said its nothing,i said something,you were proved wrong on that point.whos diggng themselves a hole.Last post ima gonna do today.keep adding edits

In those games the player-based area of effect root is typically instant cast, wider in radius, and doesn't 100% break on the first pip of damage. Good luck casting it in PVP when someone is beating on you without Surecast or Swiftcast. Hell, if I was playing melee dps I'd hope you waste them on Blizz 2. It'll make stopping anything actually important you could cast easier.

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Originally Posted by Sylari

The virus nerf hits BLM/WHM with their inferior cross class Virus harder than it does the arcanists.

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Except the only real fight right now is T5 and you only need the STR part of the virus which a BLM/WHM can bring.

Ninja nerf is a win.

As a SMN with Twintania down and just missing the ilv95 book.

I don't care about this "nerf", I'll adapt and adjust.
Learn2Play.

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Originally Posted by Kalandros

As a SMN with Twintania down and just missing the ilv95 book.

I don't care about this "nerf", I'll adapt and adjust.
Learn2Play.

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As a SMN with Twintania down and just missing the Book, how dare you put nerf in quotes?

How dare you say "adapt and adjust?"
What is there to adapt and adjust to?

How DARE you say "Learn2Play?"
Yes, because making the class easier by removing another timer certainly calls for more skill needed.

I wish there was no daily limit. I would comment on every single ignorant or misinformed post if I could.