PVP - Ideas & Expectations!!

I play this game because it doesn't have PvP. I hate WoW players in PvP, they turn into mindless hooting poopholes, would love to keep this kind of player away from FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Vahzl

I play this game because it doesn't have PvP. I hate WoW players in PvP, they turn into mindless hooting poopholes, would love to keep this kind of player away from FFXIV.

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WoW players are human, You are human(Hopefully).. We are all the same, thus we are all "Hooting Poopholes". But your just Hooting and Poopholing on something else rather than pvp.

PS: What is a "Hooting PoopHole"?

Fantasy Earth Zero Style!

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Originally Posted by ZephyrAM

Unfortunately, you do a very good job of emulating exactly why I don't like having PvP in a game... because of asinine behavior like this.

Not liking or wanting any part of PvP doesn't mean people aren't competitive, or overly pacifists, or wimps, or whatever other 'care bear' terms you want to associate with the idea, it may well just mean they don't appreciate the hostile, trash talking, aggressive behavior often shown by at least someone during most rounds of PvP.

They might also just not like to lose... but players like that just don't PvP and they're done with it, no more worries.

The point is, the open, anonymous nature of the internet fuels un-sportsman like behavior that just isn't called for. There's nothing wrong with trash talking and messing around with actual friends that you're well enough acquainted with to understand, but it 'is' wrong in MMO's with people you don't know in the slightest.

So by all means, keep PvP out of XIV. And keep making posts like you have been... maybe that'll help convince the Devs that they don't want to foster such a community here.

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I never use the word "carebear", I don't play WoW, and I certainly don't trash talk players in a competitive environment. I WILL however, trash talk people who think an entire form of OPTIONAL gameplay should be kept out of an MMO simply because they don't like human competition. From my point of view, your post is written like this:

I don't care about players who enjoy PvP, please keep it out of MY game because one day I might decide to try a PvP match, lose, and get talked down to by an anonymous player over the internet. My feelings are at risk of being hurt by a stranger I will never meet.

As I said earlier, it's completely silly for anyone to say NO to a form of gameplay they will NEVER have to participate in unless they CHOOSE to. It's in no way detrimental to the game as a whole or to the community. The "PvP no thanks" without an actual valid reason mentality is.

Sadly alot of you that say you don't care about pvp, modern mmos without it, tend not to fare well at all now a days. FF14 needs pvp or it will not last. There is just something about fighting something with an IQ higher than a tadpole. Brings people together and actively creates competition. It has a bonding quality to it, which is why people like mmos, the interaction with other living, breathing individuals.

I played so many mmos, from my experience pvp and pve are not compatible. If they bring pvp tp FFXIV im out of here since im a pve player. I have seen too many games ruined by pvp.

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Originally Posted by kaboro

I played so many mmos, from my experience pvp and pve are not compatible. If they bring pvp tp FFXIV im out of here since im a pve player. I have seen too many games ruined by pvp.

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I give up. You barbarians can't be reasoned with.

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Originally Posted by Punxsutawney

Sadly alot of you that say you don't care about pvp, modern mmos without it, tend not to fare well at all now a days. FF14 needs pvp or it will not last. There is just something about fighting something with an IQ higher than a tadpole. Brings people together and actively creates competition. It has a bonding quality to it, which is why people like mmos, the interaction with other living, breathing individuals.

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Umm, you are confused. All pvp based mmos failed miserably. PvP players have a big mouth and they are very vocal on the forums, but after all is said and done, pvp players are all the same: they come, they whine, they leave.

I am all for them implementing some sort of competition between players (sports, racing, gambling, something more creative) but PVP in MMORPG games just brings a whole set of problems. For starters, the never ending cycle of balancing classes and 'hardcore' cry baby bitches complaining every time they deem another class overpowered.

i dont think we gonna seee pvp soon. maybe like 1.2 patch.