I still think you're low-balling it, son.
For those leveling up a class for the first time(or even those like me with lv.50 jobs), remember to do those class quest to 30. I've got new abilities I haven't used in 1.0 and the quest are fun. I'm doing all my classes to 30 to get an achievement! ^___^
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dungeon exp is laughable
until square changes that, no ty.
I fate leveled CNJ/WHM from 1-50 and then immediately did AK in all AF gear and healed it flawlessly...
While dungeon exp isn't as good as it can be, it is not laughable at all. Today, I went through Aurum vale twice and got to about 28-305 exp from them, which is amazing considering that I love doing dungeons and it went by pretty quickly. I guess it just depends on how much patience you have.
There is also Guildhests which teach you party roles.
This x100.
I guarantee that if the OP and any player who has ever played an MMO started at 1 and raced to 50, where the OP does FATES/Dungeons, and the random guy does pure FATES. You'd end up with 2 people who understand their roles by the end, with the only difference being, the OP is level 50, and the other guy is wearing full DL with their myth capped twice.
@OP: Friendly tip: If you meet another player who is doing it wrong, instead of preaching against FATEs and calling the poor guy a burden. Maybe throw out a few pieces advice to help him figure it out what he should be doing. I assure you that will go further than him backpedaling though a few dungeons after being insulted.
Don't think anyone as a dps class wants to wait 45 minutes in a Que to do 1 dungeon when you can get massive amounts of exp faster off a fate.
DPS attacking stuff before tanks has been happening since the dawn of time, fates aren't the cause, impatience is. Though honestly, BLM pulling is a valid tactic if tank is ready for it since BLM aoe sleeps. You just have to be fast on flash and know its happening.