Had Sunken Temple of Qarn, leveling roulette.
Myself as Ninja, a Machinist, Scholar, and Paladin. Paladin is a sprout and it's his first time there.
The good news is that he knew the mechanics for each boss.
But the bad news is that he couldn't generate enmity at all. And his fingers must have been slipping all over his keyboard because he was moving really strangely and doing strange actions.
Like, he marked one of tablets as Target to Attack 1, and then himself as Target to Attack 2. And he left it that way for the entire run.
And then he would mark the first target at "Target to Attack 5", but then he's attack another one.
He ignored the bees completely and couldn't get enmity on them. And most of the other mobs.
So I felt like a ninja tank.
I purposefully didn't even use Blood for Blood or Internal Release, just to try not to take pull aggro from him. Also tried using Aeolin Edge from the side, instead of from the back, to reduce damage. But it still didn't work.
He was using Flash, but I guess the problem was mostly his gear.
And there isn't much you do about that during the dungeon.
I think the only reason there wasn't a vote kick is because he was a beginner and it was his first time there.
Everyone was really patient and didn't say anything though.
I wish I had leveled a tank so I could give some advice. But I haven't. So I felt, even if I gave advice, I'm not in a good position to do so. I have no experience tanking. I felt really useless.
At the end he apologized for being a beginner. I didn't know what to say to him. I felt maybe it was too easy to get to Qarn without first mastering skills.
I felt really conflicted.
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08-30-2016, 04:16 AMFinaSel
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08-30-2016, 05:54 AMExKageCould have been gear. Could have been moveset as well. Was he spamming flash? Do you know if he was using Rage of halone? (that attack is a five-slash so you can hear the attack difference)Quote:
Originally Posted by FinaSel
I'd met a PLD who was using one flash and Riot blade and it didn't do anything. Level 55 Sprout in the same dungeon. His aggro got better when I suggested he used RoH combo instead of Riot Blade combo along with flash.
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08-30-2016, 06:07 AMaesteval
Lv 60 one day last week. Went into Antitower and had a bonus message for a new dragoon (assumed.) Healer casts protect on the party and with no word both healer and tank leave. -_- Ended up getting a tank queued in progress shortly after that and was able to get someone to queue in progress as a healer. But before that...no pulls, no progress, just protect and poof. Why even cast protect.
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08-30-2016, 06:27 AMMaerwen
I was helping my boyfriend level his monk and we got Brayflox from leveling roulette. The tank is severely undergeared and was only wearing lvl 20s gear. I had a hard time keeping him alive and both the DPS suffered slightly because if I heal one of them, the tank takes so much damage. Eventually, my boyfriend vote kick the tank before we reached the second boss and he reque'd as a tank. I never felt so bad because he was trying to level his DPS at the time.
This one, we were in Cutter's Cry. He went with his bard that he was leveling as well. We got a tank - a level 40 Gladiator. No lvl 15 CNJ or anything else. Tank just runs around and attacks one target at a time. Doesn't flash or anything. She kept getting one shot every time I try to heal one of the DPS. This one, I had to leave as a healer and reque as a tank. Thankfully the other DPS knows a healer who can help us.
I also have a habit of running instances around 3am during the weekend. I got Stone Vigil with another very undergeared tank. First pull, he died. Twice. And I thought I was doing something wrong until the DPS checked the tank gears and one of them opted to kick the tank. I was still a newbie healer at the time and I had to call my boyfriend and wake him up just so he can tank it for us. It was a little rough because he was half asleep but other wise, much smoother than the other tank who kept getting one shot at.
I am eternally cursed with getting bad tanks from DF. Unless I have my boyfriend tanking for me. -
08-30-2016, 07:46 AMKnahliThis is insanely adorable and should be made into a Children's Book or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinaSel
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08-30-2016, 10:53 AMHasratAlso worth remembering Temple of Corn is in that awkward period for Paladins where they don't yet have their tank stance like the others. So they'll be struggling a little more, maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExKage
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08-30-2016, 01:22 PMGalaktica
Holy ****. I've ranted about this before, but I have to bring it up again: WHAT HAPPENED TO RAMUH HM?!?! How are so many people having trouble with it now?! It was fine, but it somehow got worse over time. There's like barely 3 machanics during the fight.
1. If you see something that isn't Ramuh, just go ahead and kill it. I know some people like to ignore the 2nd group, but for the sake of simplicity, just go ahead and kill anything you see ASAP.
2. Zoom your freaking camera out. I know you really like the way your character looks, but this one is important. For once, you need to be a team player. If you see someone get single-targetted by Chaotic Strike, prepare to run over to them if you get targeted by Thunderstorm. Better yet, just stop anything you're doing and just go stand next to that person just so you don't forget. The 2-3 seconds of precious dps you lose is not worth "losing" a party member for 40 seconds (or however long it is).
3. Leave the freaking orbs alone. This is why I say there are barely 3 mechanics. You literally don't have to do anything if you are not tethered. Just stand there. Keep punching Ramuh for all I care. Just leave the orbs alone. If you are tethered, either you are the person you're tehtered to should pick up 3 orbs. Since the person you're tethered to probably isn't paying attention. It's up to you to save the day. You learned how to count to 3 when you were a child. It's not that hard. This is your moment. Just do it. "But why is this so important?" BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE TETHERED, YOU TAKE DAMAGE WHENEVER YOUR PERFORM ANY ACTION. Did you think your health was just magically disappearing? Did you think that tether was for show? Explain it to me, Between the BRIGHT BLUE ELECTRIC TETHER attached to your character, the bright red/orange/black status symbol, and the fact that you're magically losing health anything you do anything, at what point did you decide "meh, probably don't need to pay attention to that." Tell me. I have to know. -
08-30-2016, 02:09 PMAlphaFox
For the strike its easier to just plant "A" on the ground and tell em whoever gets it to run in. Lot more noticeable to me to see someone in there rather than the icon or the target on em.
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08-30-2016, 02:28 PMMeiUshuyou have not seen how they struggle STILL in Ex form. The reason is quite simple, people dont play as a group but rather in a group and dont pay attention to others or what is required all they are interested is to make the more damage and hell with the rest. For tanks at least in Ex form, they think they can resist Ramuh's attack just by taking the hit, despite being told to take the buff (they cant count to 3) and often then not they end up with 6 aka 3 overcharge and they die....shrug...Is fun neverthelessQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaktica
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08-30-2016, 02:53 PMFinaSelHe only used flash once at the beginning of each fight. And he didn't use Rage of Halone. (Never saw a 3-slash attack).Quote:
Originally Posted by ExKage
When the enmity bar was getting close to his, I would switch to another mob to avoid pulling aggro, but it was really tough.
Now that I know what Rage of Halone is, I'm in a better position to offer advice. Thank you!