Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by ColdestHeaven

About Earthshaker, I read mentions of Paladins using Cover on melees during P1. Did I get that wrong or is it possible, considering the amount of damage before and after Earthshaker? Is it to increase uptime or decrease damage taken, mainly?

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Sleigh said it, it not only covers the damage, but prevent the sludge puddles. In fact, the negate of puddles is the thing here. However, I disagree on DRG beeing one of the lasts on Cover priority. I can think this is correct if your static has a MNK (who may have a major DPS loss due to disconect), but in my case, we have DRG(me), SMN, BLM and BRD (wrost dps setup, lol) so the PLD will look for me on the first Earthshaker. If I'm not targeted, he won't cover anyone.

For the second (if he didn't covered my on the first) he'll look to me and our BLM, but he'll cover the BLM only if I'm not a target. The BLM sure has a DPS loss, but less the me. For BRD and SMN, they can handle it and keep dpsing.

But it may vary, depending on several factors. For eg, if someone on your group has latency problems, or if your melee has a crap gear and you have a top BLM doing the most of the damage, and so goes on but in a fair dps competition, I think a melee should get covered.

p1 puddle priority should be blm only on the first set, then blm>melee on the second set. melee probably lose less than 1s of uptime and auto attacks on bahamut during earthshakers in p1

in p4 if you cover i think mnk>drg/nin>blm>smn/brd for cover priority. mnk has no ranged attacks while drg/nin do; blm can still dps while doing earthshakers especially if their saved proc+swiftcast lines up with it, and smn/brd are pretty mobile already

2 weeks, 2 monk claws

i think i got targeted by every earthshaker in p4 this week lol

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Originally Posted by Elkya95

Oh dear, didn't even think about i140 relic.... That would piss people off a lot.

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Unless the last step involves coil. Non raiders can get a fairly proper zodiac with the 125 and Raiders who do both get the definitive ultimate in weapons?

Sleigh can you do something for me? Can you please write me full rotation which you use? I am just sure that I do mistake somewhere in my roation. Thanks for help!

Another SCH book, so that's 2 SCH books, 2 SMN books, and Ninja daggers in the past 5 attempts, the only thing we can even use is the SCH book. It's like we're making a library.

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Originally Posted by Noxotic

Another SCH book, so that's 2 SCH books, 2 SMN books, and Ninja daggers in the past 5 attempts, the only thing we can even use is the SCH book. It's like we're making a library.

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Are you with Kio?

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Originally Posted by Sparhawk6

Sleigh can you do something for me? Can you please write me full rotation which you use? I am just sure that I do mistake somewhere in my roation. Thanks for help!

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Just to be straight with you I most certainly do less damage than some of the heavy hitting DRGs in this thread, but if you want, I'll tell you what I do. I start with the Ricky Guo opener:

"HT (IR BFB) ID (xpot) disembowel (power surge leg sweep) ct (jump) phleb (dfd) TT (SSD) VT (life surge) FT"

Then keep a loose priority system of IR > B4B > Pot > Mercy Stroke (if no time for buffs before an add dies, use Mercy Stroke ASAP!) > Leg Sweep > Life Surge before a Full Thrust (can fit Leg Sweep + Leg Sweep between 2 and 3) > DFD (if not needed for AoE/travel otherwise possibly throttled) > Power Surge > Jump > Spineshatter Dive (if not needed for travel otherwise possibly throttled) for your oGCDs while maintaining the rotation of (HT priority, Phleb if HT is up) > (keep Chaos Thrust combo up, otherwise do Full Thrust combo) > (HT priority, Phleb if HT is up) > (keep Chaos Thrust combo up, otherwise do Full Thrust combo) > (HT priority, Phleb if HT is up) > (keep Chaos Thrust combo up, otherwise do Full Thrust combo) > etc

Keep in mind how to adjust your rotation based on adds spawning, breaks in the fight, and DFD/Spineshatter Dive minimizing travel time if Elusive Jump is unavailable or unfit for the job. When you use LB3, always use it in place of a Full Thrust combo (IE don't use it the second it comes up usually, wait until you've just done the HT or Phleb in your rotation before a Full Thrust combo.)

For T12 it's basically still that except it goes HT > IR + B4B > ID > Pot > Disembowel > DFD to hit the Bennu that just spawned > priority system, and you can time your second DFD to hit the 3rd Bennu if Phoenix is tanked in the center. Typically Elusive Jump is available for Bluefire placement unless very unlucky with multiples. Save 3rd DFD for Bennu phase. Pew pew final phase.

Gotta emphasize DRG is just my alt.

As soon as the ranged/OT can kill Bennus on their own, it's best if the melee don't touch 'em (except to prevent an awkward phase change). Motion is usually a DPS loss for melee in practice, and it doesn't take maximum advantage of damage-type debuffs like Disembowel.

Ninja and monks have a good mid-way option in putting Shadow Fang and Demolish on Bennus, but dragoons really lose that "perfect rotation" if they try DoTs on Bennus due to the 1-minute respawn time and the 1-minute DRG rotation.

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Originally Posted by Daweism

Are you with Kio?

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Nah, PET on Gilgamesh.

So guys here is my rotation - HT-IR-Phl-Legsweep-ID-BFB-DFD-Dis-Spineshatter-ChT-PowerS-Jump-TT-VT-LS-FT after full rotation I go like HT-Phl-TT-VT-FT and after this I go again HT-IR(if is up)-Phl-ID-Dis-ChT-Jump-TT-VT-FT. So please some heavy hitters or anyone who have some idea for improvement can you help? I am thankful for every ideas.