[Dev] Overtaxation of PC Hardware

Want to take a guess at what game is doing this? http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9223/sc2h.gif

HINT: It's not XIV.

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

Want to take a guess at what game is doing this? http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9223/sc2h.gif

HINT: It's not XIV.

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WOW?

+extra crap so I can post ;p

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Uhh no its not JUST an instance lol IE isn't gonna raise your temps like that. So please o exalted one explain why temps go up 15C on THAT screen before even in game. This explanation i have to hear.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

The FPS has Really has very little to do with the argument at hand. I think the problem with this conversation here is were all talking about 2 different things. I know what you are trying to say and unfortunately it has no bearing on this conversational topic.

The optimal requirements for this game are a GTX 460, 2.0 GHZ Processor and 2GB of RAM and 15GB HDD space...

Right now my system is fine, it is running at 60FPS in Ul Dah with No One loaded on my screen, My GPU temperature is 45C, and all my settings are set to default standard for this game. This right now is fine I have no complaints.

The issue with the game is based on this, If I turn off FFXIV, and wait 20 minutes for my system to completely cool down to no load settings my GPU hovers at 25C, Keep in mind this may vary depending on room temp in my house, right now it is 60F outside and in my house so temps are a bit lower.

Now please explain to me how when I load the login screen the temps jump 10-15C there should be NO LOAD on that login screen.

When 1 person loads on my screen my FPS drops from 60-40 FPS and the temperature jumps on average 7-10 Degrees, in an open area not in town. DOES NOT MATTER WHAT SETTING THE GAME IS ON 1-10. It means the game engine is not properly optimized to run and play on our systems. Which means that the game is accessing out hardware more times then it should and causing temperatures to rise higher then they should by overworking our hardware. Currently overworking is probably not a big deal as most of us bought new systems, but 2-3 years down the road constantly working our hardware the way it does will cause overload and hardware will burn out.

Now SE has admitted this in posts on these very forums, as well as over the phone to various people as they have called to complain about things. Constantly running hardware at 100% is a bad thing whether it is designed to be run at said loads or not. Hence forthwith the argument at hand that yes the game is Overtaxing our hardware by causing unnecessary strain on the various components.

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Can't be arsed to read all 48 pages of this, but if your machine is spiking just from opening the log-in menu, maybe it's time to do some house cleaning/maint. on your system.

opening the same log-in screen on my system raised my GPU load by a whole 0% and increased the temp. by... 0 degrees.

There's no argument that FF14 is poorly optimized at best, but I would refrain from throwing every single performance issue that pops up at the feet of the program. There are numerous factors that may have lead to the problem you've encountered, which may or may not be directly or indirectly related to FF14, such is the nature of PC gaming.

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Mines 50C after load but on a hot day yes its damn near 70 which is ridiculous I'm sorry but I don't build my PCs to watch them work that hard.

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Really? That's weird, I built my pc to make it work like the dirty beast it is. *Whacks on 16x QCSAA* what's that mr gpu? You feel a bit hot? SUCK IT UP LOOK HOW SMOOF IT ALL IS!!

Gonna echo what others have said, that login screen does nada to my temps, you got something fishy going on elkwood.

I have never gone below 30fps with everything cranked up on 1920x1080 (Single 5870).... the fans have to grind a little harder but its not the end of the world really.... We complain (myself included) but honestly, I don't go more than a year or two on any one piece of hardware anyway..... So shorter lifespans really don't bother me as much
I would think they'd get the engine straight soon though...
Crystal tools is fairly new and has only been used on Xbox 360 DX9 and PS3 OpenGL compatible hardware...
Never on a PC and never DX10 or above... so its going through a few Growing Pains....
Right now it's at that awkward Ben Seaver Stage where its voice is cracking and its not a cute little kid anymore...
I think it can be fixed though... Instead of having to cast Leonardo DiCaprio on the show
You see what I did there?

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Actually no but thank you for proving my point for me, your gonna tell me you idle temp is 56C on your GPU? If so then you need to get your crap checked out.

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never actualy seen a higher than midrange card in person have we? <thats too bad>

i dont even get kicked out of 2D clocks till its past the char selection screen, must be an nvidia thing to overheat in an IE shell window

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

Want to take a guess at what game is doing this? http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9223/sc2h.gif

HINT: It's not XIV.

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load high but not pushing the amps that high hmm, its something running without vsync all i can tell, STO?

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

Want to take a guess at what game is doing this? http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9223/sc2h.gif

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Did you forget to remove 'sc2' from the file name?

Regardless, lots of games will do that when you have a blower style fan and run it at the minimum speed possible.


I have other bones to pick too:

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

EDIT: I dunno about Crytek. They can bring the graphics, but the first Crysis was really badly optimized.

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Originally Posted by MonsieurVerde

The original Crysis was badly optimised. >_> Hence why it still chugs on most hardware today.

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No it was not.

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Originally Posted by SAMINUS

Ya... don't try and run this game with Windows Vista lol, Vista in itself is a memory hog. go with Win 7.

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Hurp durp. http://www.tweakguides.com/VA_1.html

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

So please o exalted one explain why temps go up 15C on THAT screen before even in game. This explanation i have to hear.

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http://daow.net/images/FFXIVLoginTemp.png


Anybody else have BS that they want resolved?

Still waiting on the patch that adds dynamic environmental shadows (or even static ones) so the game engine can justify running so poorly and stressfully.

A mod post a reply about direcX10-11 ! but in japanese ...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...139#post186139

Eh... well let me try translating this.

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Originally Posted by Triairy

Hello everyone,
I spoke with Yoshida regarding the implementation of DX10/11 features.

Keeping the PS3 version in mind, there seem to be no plans to implement it at this moment.

Should there be a big update in graphics in the future, then things like the spread of DX10/11 hardware and software support will have to be considered carefully when choosing the timing of implementation.

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So, if I didn't get the last paragraph wrong, they still don't consider DX10/11 to be widespread enough to warrant an implementation? Also, whatever this has to do with the PS3? PS3 is not running windows, so DX version doesn't matter!