Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

One thing I constantly saw looking at discussions across the internet was for some reason people note "I like relics, I just hate the grind". This confuses me as the grind was an active part of every relic in the game prior to this point. Are you sure you really liked relics or did you just like the shiny catch up weapon instead? If you simply wanted a 630 weapon for tomestones for buy the tomestone weapon and bank the coins from alliance raids until they add the weapon upgrade to the exchange and maybe start giving feedback to unlock the weapon upgrade item from that exchange sooner. Is it the shiny aspect of the weapon then? I mean I am still glamouring my crafted shiny book over it. I am just rather confused at people who claimed to love relics when they seemed to have hated everything about relics prior.

i'm ok either way. But for me a weapon feels special when i have to do a cool or funny quest likes Hildibrand saga to obtain it.

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

One thing I constantly saw looking at discussions across the internet was for some reason people note "I like relics, I just hate the grind". This confuses me as the grind was an active part of every relic in the game prior to this point. Are you sure you really liked relics or did you just like the shiny catch up weapon instead? If you simply wanted a 630 weapon for tomestones for buy the tomestone weapon and bank the coins from alliance raids until they add the weapon upgrade to the exchange and maybe start giving feedback to unlock the weapon upgrade item from that exchange sooner. Is it the shiny aspect of the weapon then? I mean I am still glamouring my crafted shiny book over it. I am just rather confused at people who claimed to love relics when they seemed to have hated everything about relics prior.

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A term for it is something like "lazy completionism". Optional grinds and/or achievements that offer a reward that players want, but players don't want to put in the effort towards them. They don't want to do Bozja, they just want their dailies they've been doing to give them the item. They don't want to do the ultimate, they just want a carry/rmt for the weapon. Etc. Etc.

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Originally Posted by Xirean

Hi yes, that's me. Hated both Eureka and Bozja and much prefer not having an exploratory zone tied to the relic.

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Interesting, I hope they at least have us repeat raids and dungeons people still enjoy this time and not tie it to 30 dead HW fates (Maybe we'll get STB this time! :D). I think I'll always prefer repeating newer content as opposed to going back to older content everyone is already sick of...

I finished all Eureka Zones in 2 weeks soloing and grouping with random parties and it was a blast. We got relics AND shiny armor for the grind and this was years after the content was "relevant." ATM now you just pay for it from dailies. lol

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Originally Posted by BurningSoul

Interesting, I hope they at least have us repeat raids and dungeons people still enjoy this time and not tie it to 30 dead HW fates (Maybe we'll get STB this time! :D). I think I'll always prefer repeating newer content as opposed to going back to older content everyone is already sick of...

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For Manderville weapon stage 3, the weapon must have a Sweaty Chocobo Feather infused into its core, to grant it the power of a red chocobo. This is an item which may drop when you complete the Bozjan Critical Engagement "Hunt for Red Choctober" without dying even once; there is a 5% drop chance. In addition, you need a role-specific (Tank, Healer, Ranged Physical, Caster, Melee) piece of the Queen's Chariot from Delubrum Reginae; completion of DR has a 10% chance to drop the appropriate Chariot piece for the role you're currently playing. Delubrum Reginae (Savage) is guaranteed to drop the appropriate piece on completion.

Lastly, the process will require a Eureka Fragment as used in Physeos weapons, obtained in the same manner (via clearing Baldesion Arsenal in Eureka).

Please look forward to it?

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

For Manderville weapon stage 3, the weapon must have a Sweaty Chocobo Feather infused into its core, to grant it the power of a red chocobo. This is an item which may drop when you complete the Bozjan Critical Engagement "Hunt for Red Choctober" without dying even once; there is a 5% drop chance. In addition, you need a role-specific (Tank, Healer, Ranged Physical, Caster, Melee) piece of the Queen's Chariot from Delubrum Reginae; completion of DR has a 10% chance to drop the appropriate Chariot piece for the role you're currently playing. Delubrum Reginae (Savage) is guaranteed to drop the appropriate piece on completion.

Lastly, the process will require a Eureka Fragment as used in Physeos weapons, obtained in the same manner (via clearing Baldesion Arsenal in Eureka).

Please look forward to it?

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Eh, better than the old school MMOs where you had to camp a mob that only spawns once a week. At least i'm in Bozja and eureka i'm getting crystals, gaining bozja/eureka exp, and lockboxes that will fill my inventory up with fireworks!

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

For Manderville weapon stage 3, the weapon must have a Sweaty Chocobo Feather infused into its core, to grant it the power of a red chocobo. This is an item which may drop when you complete the Bozjan Critical Engagement "Hunt for Red Choctober" without dying even once; there is a 5% drop chance. In addition, you need a role-specific (Tank, Healer, Ranged Physical, Caster, Melee) piece of the Queen's Chariot from Delubrum Reginae; completion of DR has a 10% chance to drop the appropriate Chariot piece for the role you're currently playing. Delubrum Reginae (Savage) is guaranteed to drop the appropriate piece on completion.

Lastly, the process will require a Eureka Fragment as used in Physeos weapons, obtained in the same manner (via clearing Baldesion Arsenal in Eureka).

Please look forward to it?

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I mean they had this revolutionary idea in ShB of one time only steps which this could have desperately used. Have a one time step where you go into say Nier a few times and get android fragments to inspire Godbert. I really do not agree with leaving the roulette for tomestones as the only step as it has been proven time and again people do cheat the system in regards to Alliance Raids. This is where my issue lies, content that needed help won't get it.

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Originally Posted by Xeronia

as it has been proven time and again people do cheat the system in regards to Alliance Raids. This is where my issue lies, content that needed help won't get it.

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lmao, I forgot all about the ilvl cheese. This is going to be the easiest 630 weapon to get in the game!

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

lmao, I forgot all about the ilvl cheese. This is going to be the easiest 630 weapon to get in the game!

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Most new players probably don't even have reason to unlock Mhach, Ivalice, or Nier is the other issue. Sure Moogle tomestone will come around and try to support at least one of those but BLU annihilates Moogle tomestone events anyway which again means this all gets to just sit and rot until something requires them again.