Request to unlock Hempen set styles

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Originally Posted by Anzaman

Soon we'll just watch how Tataru will.. (3.5 spoilers)

..make us race and gender specific outfit. And we can watch how forums explode. :p

http://i.imgur.com/FM0wGGR.png

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I wonder when we'll get it. the start of 4.0 perhaps?

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Originally Posted by MistyMew

Also would prefer glamour choices tied/saved to job not item of gear , so "shared" caster gear for example or shared tanking gear can be glamoured uniquely per job while the base set is the same.

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Same here but IIRC they already adressed that issue, saying that considering how the glam system was developped it's not possible to do so.
Yoshida did noit say they would never do it but that it would require a lot of time and $ to do so :/

This thread will end with all catboys wearing the highlander hempen.

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Originally Posted by Sterre

The reason why I'm against removing any race restrictions is that this game doesn't offer any race specific content, only "content" that offers some unique traits to the races (other than the obvious physical differences) are hairstyles, hempen sets and starter gear.

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You know, maybe that's because the restrictions shouldn't exist in the first place? Imagine that, huh? If they've yet to introduce more race gear at this point, its very clearly intentional that they've yet to do so again. It's a losing battle either way, so the best way to address it is to remove the restrictions entirely as less people are supportive of restrictions than those who want them removed. You're not going to win in this argument, nor will anyone who shares your view. Perpetuating a problem by championing racial restrictions onto an MMO with a heavy appearance customization aspect; wherein people can LITERALLY change their race at their will, is idiocy at its finest.

It is unreasonable, as it goes against the norm. There is no black and white for this issue; no pun intended I'm referring to literal pigments and using an idiom that is not a reference to race. There's a massive swathe of gear that isn't locked and there is a very small, almost minute amount that is. It's time they make a decision and stick with it, and people like you don't help the situation by insisting that they persist in leaving pointless racial differentiation intact when the game has no place for it be it in narrative or presentation.

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

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Although I'm in full support of unlocking the sets, she has every right to her opinion here.

Even if you don't agree.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

This thread will end with all catboys wearing the highlander hempen.

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I'm just looking forward to wearing it on my Roegadyn. :D

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

Snip.

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Just because someone doesn't share your opinion about something, doesn't make their opinion worthless. Everyone views things differently, so just because something is pointless to you, it doesn't mean it's pointless to everyone.
People have been able to keep the conversation rather civilized so far, so there's no need to get hostile.

I'm not gonna repeat the reasons why I think the hempen sets should stay race specific as I believe I have made my point rather clear already.
However, you yourself said the amount of race locked gear is very small. That, in my opinion, supports the reasons to keep the gear locked as people are not asking for more race specific gear, we just want to preserve the few ones we have now.

Also, no one knows who is gonna "win" this argument. It's up to the DEVs to decide what they will do, and people will have to live with whatever that decision will be.

I don't really understand why anything needs to be race or gender or job or any other specific tbh. In RL I'm not a policeman yet I can wear any gender version of the uniform if I want. I'm from England not Wales but nothing stops me from wearing there national dress should I wish.
Things don't make you special you know You make you special.

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

You know, maybe that's because the restrictions shouldn't exist in the first place?

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Alas, but they do.

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Imagine that, huh?

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Technically, you should be the one doing the imagining since what you want doesn't actually exist in reality yet.

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If they've yet to introduce more race gear at this point, its very clearly intentional that they've yet to do so again.

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H-how do you know that? GCs were virtually untouched from 2.0 to 3.4. Whose to say they won't introduce more race gear in the future?

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It's a losing battle either way, so the best way to address it is to remove the restrictions entirely as less people are supportive of restrictions than those who want them removed. You're not going to win in this argument, nor will anyone who shares your view.

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If only that was up to you to decide. Thankfully, the developers asked for feedback from both camps. If they just wanted an answer based simple on votes, they could've looked at the first few pages of this thread and be done with it.

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Perpetuating a problem by championing racial restrictions onto an MMO with a heavy appearance customization aspect; wherein people can LITERALLY change their race at their will, is idiocy at its finest.

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You should insult people more. It makes others take you seriously.

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It is unreasonable, as it goes against the norm. There is no black and white for this issue; no pun intended I'm referring to literal pigments and using an idiom that is not a reference to race.

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Wait...if this issue isn't black or white, why are you acting like you have the high ground? This whole thing is one big mess of gray. No one is right, no one is wrong. Everyone just has the own opinion on the matter.

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There's a massive swathe of gear that isn't locked and there is a very small, almost minute amount that is. It's time they make a decision and stick with it,

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Well, considering they've introduced more locked gear (locked to sex, not race), I would say their decision is pretty clear.

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and people like you don't help the situation by insisting that they persist in leaving pointless racial differentiation intact when the game has no place for it be it in narrative or presentation.

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Oooooh. Okay, I see now. When you said, "make a decision" you actually meant "make the decision that I agree with." Cool, gotcha.

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Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn

You know, maybe that's because the restrictions shouldn't exist in the first place? Imagine that, huh? If they've yet to introduce more race gear at this point, its very clearly intentional that they've yet to do so again. It's a losing battle either way, so the best way to address it is to remove the restrictions entirely as less people are supportive of restrictions than those who want them removed. You're not going to win in this argument, nor will anyone who shares your view. Perpetuating a problem by championing racial restrictions onto an MMO with a heavy appearance customization aspect; wherein people can LITERALLY change their race at their will, is idiocy at its finest.

It is unreasonable, as it goes against the norm. There is no black and white for this issue; no pun intended I'm referring to literal pigments and using an idiom that is not a reference to race. There's a massive swathe of gear that isn't locked and there is a very small, almost minute amount that is. It's time they make a decision and stick with it, and people like you don't help the situation by insisting that they persist in leaving pointless racial differentiation intact when the game has no place for it be it in narrative or presentation.

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What exactly is so wrong about a little diversity? Why can we not have items that are locked to a group/ race because for them it has cultural significance? Yes the idea that my Highlander hempen gear is a important cultural item is silly and moronic... however it's also the Only thing we have not usable to all. As of right now only one item is racial locked to each race in terms of appearance. Is that fair, is that ok that no one can be unique? You make a choice when you made your character, your representation in the story of this game, some choose to make eye candy in strings and want access to everything so their dolls have every option in bikini's. I chose the characters that were conquerors, after having been defeated now are made to suffer as outcast, vagabonds, and refugees. Request like this undermine my personal hope that we see more gear made exclusive to races (sub races as well, A Midlander male and Highlander male should not look like the shop at the same outfitter), something worthy of cultural significance.

Restrictions are ok, not having access everything is to be expected and for some adds story to their characters. Continuing this kind of mentality just means less incentive for the art team keep trying tp make anything uniqe, why bother when everyone wants to share the same underwear?