The Lessons Not Learned.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Endwalker provides all of that now, but you cant be pleased, not to mention your continued prating on how you could do better....when you cant and we both know it. Your comments on "good story" are based on your continued "claims" that "you know what everyone wants" which is utter rubbish. NOT ONCE have you ever admitted you could be wrong. Not once have you admitted that what you want may very well be NOT what everyone else wants.



Opinion. Not fact by any means.

I am enjoying it all immensely, so are many of my friends and FC members. People other than you are having fun with the game and dont have the same issues you do..but somehow you know what they want, without ever even asking them?

Please...

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all jokes aside. are you okay. you seem very annoyed

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

That isn’t true though. Give me good story, good content with sufficient rewards, and good gameplay for my chosen job in a timely manner and you wouldn’t see much of me around here.

Instead we got an expansion that goes from blunder to blunder in each of the above categories.

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I actually read your "rewrite" of EW. If that is what you would consider good story then I am sorry to say but no, thanks.

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all jokes aside. are you okay. you seem very annoyed

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Im fine, just impatient with people who have this absurd idea that "everyone should do what I want because i know best". One of his earlier posts was "what we should be playing instead".

You will forgive me if I find that a little..presumptuous....

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Originally Posted by CheshCa7

I actually read your "rewrite" of EW. If that is what you would consider good story then I am sorry to say but no, thanks.

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Thank you for your opinion. Under normal circumstances I would’ve liked to dive deeper and ask what specifically didn’t work for you and how I could improve on it, but given how many FFXIV players gleefully ate up a convoluted time travel story with the anime little girl of ultimate despair, I have good reason to dismiss your counsel outright.

I know what works for me in terms of storytelling, and I was considerably gracious in not eliminating the scions outright and even reusing some of the worst characters in the entire Final Fantasy franchise in better ways, such as Meteion and Hermes. In any case now we have people arguing in defense of the most ridiculous round of beast tribe quests yet, so I can safely say that those with such childish tastes will certainly never align with my own.

Thank goodness FFXVI, in spite of Yoshi’s involvement, seems to be shaping up to a more mature game. Unlike here, he couldn’t ruin that game like he did FFXIV as his “playground” subjecting all of us to his ever-changing whims. Or perhaps his passion truly lies there and that is why he appears so confounded whenever he has to answer lore questions about FFXIV. If so, perhaps it’s time for him to pass the torch to someone who cares more and continue pursuing whatever it is he’s most passionate about.

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Thank you for your opinion. Under normal circumstances I would’ve liked to dive deeper and ask what specifically didn’t work for you and how I could improve on it, but given how many FFXIV players gleefully ate up a convoluted time travel story with the anime little girl of ultimate despair, I have good reason to dismiss your counsel outright.

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..along with anyone else who disagrees with you.

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I know what works for me in terms of storytelling

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..but with a game this big, you need to look beyond you and consider what EVERYONE ELSE wants or will enjoy. Missed that did we?

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n any case now we have people arguing in defense of the most ridiculous round of beast tribe quests yet, so I can safely say that those with such childish tastes will certainly never align with my own.

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The nerve of people enjoying things you dont like or dont approve of. How COULD they...

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Unlike here, he couldn’t ruin that game like he did FFXIV

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:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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If so, perhaps it’s time for him to pass the torch to someone who cares more and continue pursuing whatever it is he’s most passionate about.

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Yeahhh...no.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Thank you for your opinion. Under normal circumstances I would’ve liked to dive deeper and ask what specifically didn’t work for you and how I could improve on it, but given how many FFXIV players gleefully ate up a convoluted time travel story with the anime little girl of ultimate despair, I have good reason to dismiss your counsel outright.

I know what works for me in terms of storytelling, and I was considerably gracious in not eliminating the scions outright and even reusing some of the worst characters in the entire Final Fantasy franchise in better ways, such as Meteion and Hermes. In any case now we have people arguing in defense of the most ridiculous round of beast tribe quests yet, so I can safely say that those with such childish tastes will certainly never align with my own.

Thank goodness FFXVI, in spite of Yoshi’s involvement, seems to be shaping up to a more mature game. Unlike here, he couldn’t ruin that game like he did FFXIV as his “playground” subjecting all of us to his ever-changing whims. Or perhaps his passion truly lies there and that is why he appears so confounded whenever he has to answer lore questions about FFXIV. If so, perhaps it’s time for him to pass the torch to someone who cares more and continue pursuing whatever it is he’s most passionate about.

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"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C.S.Lewis

That was also the problem with your writing. It was teenager edgy stuff. You seem to think that a dark story means a good story but a dark story without a good reason behind it is just bad. And when we get to your cringey portrail of Venat where you bent over backwards to throw aside all her background just to turn her into some Scooby Doo villain. Yeah. Not good.
So you see, maybe the problem isn't that we are childish and wrong. Maybe some of us lived more then you, read more then you, understand more then you. And maybe, while we can agree that FFXIV is not some masterpiece of storytelling your version is actually much much worse. Like I'm sure there are Twilight fanfiction pieces that are miles better. You get it now?

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Originally Posted by CheshCa7

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I am not interested in writing for 50+ year olds with the tastes of children. I find those people extremely creepy and off-putting, especially with the fever with which they've defended the catastrophic state of Endwalker's writing. I consider my rewrite superior to the anime fanfic that was the MSQ that released in 6.0, and I say that with 0 reservation.

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Originally Posted by Axxion

Just to chime in on this but per https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/1285...al-fantasy-xvi

you will have 6 of the main people that worked on 14 working on 16

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Which could be a reason that Endwalker has largely been sub-par in multiple areas.

The possibility exists that:

They are focusing their attention on the new game and FFXIV isn't getting the attention it needs.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I am not interested in writing for 50+ year olds with the tastes of children. I find those people extremely creepy and off-putting, especially with the fever with which they've defended the catastrophic state of Endwalker's writing. I consider my rewrite superior to the anime fanfic that was the MSQ that released in 6.0, and I say that with 0 reservation.

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For a few seconds I wondered where did you get the age of 50, as I am for sure younger then that but then I remember the quote. If that is what you got from it I am truly sorry but it seems your reading comprehension is not the best and yet you consider your opinions superior. Rarely have I seen such utterly misplaced arrogance. Bit amusing, really.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I am not interested in writing for 50+ year olds with the tastes of children. I find those people extremely creepy and off-putting, especially with the fever with which they've defended the catastrophic state of Endwalker's writing. I consider my rewrite superior to the anime fanfic that was the MSQ that released in 6.0, and I say that with 0 reservation.

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Superior for like when people when they were in their edge lord high school days. Believe me I would've loved your script back in the day but nowadays I know better that good stories don't mean appealing to the "mature audience".

This honestly sounds like corporate talk to me